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A Cynic's Guide To Prem FFP Regulations

The Premier League have voted to bring in new financial fair play regulations, but how much will they help to safeguard clubs' futures? Daniel Storey isn't impressed...

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paulmcc (Manchester City) says...

@IanJames - Football clubs have always benefitted from wealthy backers, whether they come from the other side of the planet or down the road is immaterial. There is no point in yearning for something that has never and will never be the case. United benefitted from wealthy owner in the 1910s/20s and the same was the case with Arsenal. Preventing any other club from receiving the same treatment is hugely unjust. The holier than thou attitude of Manchester United/ Arsenal and the like is sickening and what is more disgusting is their ability to snake their way into positions of power to serve their own selfish needs. They dont welcome competition as Mr Ferguson likes to suggest, they just take the fight away somewhere else, where they feel they still hold more power.

Posted 2:16pm 20th February 2013

IanJames says...

@harrybolton - Chelsea and Man City didn't have 'diligence and hard work' going for them, just the right backers coming in at the most fortunate moment, and you're right about circumstances being what they are, what's happening now can't be undone, although if you could point out in my last post where I expected bigger clubs to chuck their wealth at the more disadvantaged I'd be very grateful. No, my ire was raised a little at your inference that it's nice having 'competition' as long as its one powered by cash, a small closed shop within a league. I long for that day - it may never happen - where one club intrudes and prospers with some success on its own financial and structural power, not one fuelled by one man's endless financial largesse. The dismay is not in the reality of it, but the happy admission by some that wealth is the way to go and not by any other means. I don't really mind that clubs spend if they have the money, I do mind the blinkered refusal to think that just because there are the happy few splashing the cash that this is how the game should be. Just once, 'competition' from another quarter, gradual competition by a club that had the strength of its own structure to challenge would be something to see. Not pots of cash by an oligarch or sheihk, but by sheer character of that club's infrastructure and financial good sense, so no accusations of 'buying' a cup or title could be levelled.

Posted 11:58am 17th February 2013

levi says...

Hello dimwits. So it's the old United fans vs Chelsea and City fans tete a tete over ffp, is it? Nothing to do with Rodgers? Ah well, cant be helped, cant be helped. Well my two very considered cents are that Rodgers is an engineered marketing droid planted by FSM (Fenway whatsit whatnot) in collaboration with Fox. Discuss

Posted 4:30am 17th February 2013

bernsteinforpm (Manchester City) says...

Oh Harry, you're such a romantic, but why does it matter that the prince is Arabian? Would it be better if he was of European Descent? American Perhaps?

Posted 8:52pm 15th February 2013

bernsteinforpm (Manchester City) says...

Oh Jimi...Thanks for backing our points the best way you know how. We love you Jimi!

Posted 8:47pm 15th February 2013

jimikungfu (Manchester United) says...

@Petergriffin.....I've just checked the league table, turns out City and Chelsea aren't a threat to United? I looked at the next round of the CL too, guess what? Your not a threat there either! In fact since the Prem began, the plastic clubs have 'won' a total of 4 titles (3 different clubs).....United 12....with 13 on its way and Arsenal 3. Sooo, the real model, and the model that actually works is the one adpoted by United and Arsenal. But to suggest that United are 'threatened' by some tin pot club with cash....when we are 12 clear, is quite frankly laughable. United have set the example, its up to clubs to try and follow that and build something with foundations instead of hoping someone buys success for them, its a pathetic way of winning anything.

Posted 2:11pm 15th February 2013

jimikungfu (Manchester United) says...

Question for City fans....how can you seriously say this is to 'cement the elite at the top' and advocate a 'fair distribution of wealth'.......as well as support City?, a club owned by a undemocratic elite whose position at the top was cemented years ago and whose idea of 'distributing wealth' amounts to paying Tevez to play golf? I find it quite laughable! How about you ask your greedy selfish owners to give back the TV money that they clearly dont need and actually buy the stadium thats been paid for by tax payers? Whilst your there....ask them why your prices have gone up 15% in two years. You guys apparently, because I dont believe for one second that you give a damn about anyone else but yourselves, are the 'community club' so never mind building a youth academy to service no one but the club.....how about you get them to donate the TV income for the 'greater good'??? You were quick to moan when you were charged the going rate at Arsenal....so we cant wait to see the 'noise' you make on this one! Yeah right! If you were really that bothered we'd see more from you than the odd comment on a football site wouldn't we? Frauds.

Posted 1:50pm 15th February 2013

jimikungfu (Manchester United) says...

Ahh the usual myths and propaganda. First, the idea that this 'cements the top 5 or 6' is simply not true, well run clubs, playing quality football will always rise to the top, whilst the natural flow of things means teams come and go....just like it always has and there is nothing to suggest this change.....ask the City fans, they've been saying for a while now United's time is up! The alternative is that you just have City and Chelsea at the top.....this is the side of the argument you never hear from City fans. What they also dont tell you is that interest in investing in the PL has all but vanished since the Shiek came in, the reason is simple.....The Shiek had to spend 1.5 BILLION to win a league on GD and beat Stoke in a cup final. If you're an investor....does that look like a good return? Whats the point of anyone buying Everton when they know that City can and will always outspend them as they use a nations wealth to skew our league? Thats why Championship clubs are more appealing and of course foriegn clubs. So whilst this new idea isn't perfect, its a start and its certainly a whole lot better than the alternative that the City fans dont want you to know about..

Posted 1:42pm 15th February 2013

HarryBoulton says...

IanJames, so what is the solution? Even distribution of ach is surely the answer, especially from TV reveues, but if you think for one minute that the likes of United, Arsenal and Liverpool are going to start handing over millions of pounds that they earned through commercial success off the pitch, you're having a laugh. Why should any club hand over it's own money that it made fairly and legitmiately by marketing its own brand and by coupling that with on field success? This is money earned through hard work and dilligence, not through fluttering their eye lashes at a rich Arabian prince. So whilst I fully understand the cynicism that FFP is viewed with from some quarters, it is not acceptable to expect well run, successful clubs to simply pony up their own money to compensate for the financial fecklessness of others.

Posted 11:15am 15th February 2013

IanJames says...

"It is also important to add that I more have more than embraced and welcomed the increased competition that Chelsea and City have brought upon the game in this country." Indeed, competition between just three clubs with large amounts of cash is just what the sport needs. Sorry, to sound snide, but for anyone who'd like to see real competition - a blend of the monied clubs and those who've been savvy enough to grow without shovelling cash into their outfits giving it a go (romantic as it sounds) - it's not real competition when it's going to be three cash-rich behemoths lording it over anyone else. That's not competition, it's just a small and exclusive elite enjoying their own cash ledgers, a complacent and smug enjoyment of their own wealth and buying power, where the idea of slowly and steadily building a club on its own foundations of self-sufficiency is seen as a bothersome annoyance.

Posted 9:01am 15th February 2013

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