United Can't Rely On Force Of Personality Alone

With only two weeks to go until the start of the season, Man United still have plenty of work to do in the transfer market. It seems the enormity of the task is dawning on Van Gaal...

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HarryBoulton says...

Di Maria can play in a central position, though. He would fit. I'm just not convinced he'd move, if we're out of the CL, and PSG are sniffing round him with bags of cash and European football on offer.

Posted 3:16pm 1st August 2014

Synergy says...

@HarryBoulton> Van Gaal has already stated he wants defenders, so I expect a defensive signing or two. Question is just whether we are talking top quality CB or a passable defender. Another midfielder would be ideal, but I think if we don't get Vidal, Van Gaal will wait until Jan for Strootman.

Would have loved Di Maria, sadly the system doesnt need wingers and I think he is going to PSG.

Posted 2:53pm 1st August 2014

HarryBoulton says...

@Synergy, I do agree that a defender is a must. Ideally a another midfielder and a wide player, but we really need that central defender, whoever they are, and wherever they may be. Whether it's a big name, or a back up player, we surely can't go into the season with 3 centre-halves if he's to play a back three. It would be just asking for trouble.

Posted 12:29pm 1st August 2014

Synergy says...

@HarryBoulton> Fair enough, we are all awaiting deals and I guess we can agree to disagree on who are gettable targets and who aren't.

As long as we get in at least one defender before the window closes I will be pleased. Absolutely thrilled with the Shaw and Herrera buys and think they are both perfect for United. And unlike most naysayers who want United to buy an entire new team, I actually have full confidence in our current players and expect them all to be back to the form they showed under SAF, which won them the title on a canter.

Posted 7:43am 1st August 2014

highsociety (Liverpool) says...

@Synergy- settle for Lallana and Markovic? No you'll just pay £60m for two average players. Lallana was in team of year last year and I highly doubt you've ever seen Markovic so just piss off with your stupid comments.

Posted 5:39pm 31st July 2014

HarryBoulton says...

I don't want to engage in a disagrement on this, but I would prefer it if Woodward pursued some more realistic targets. Some of these players are already parked at major clubs, in the Champions League, on well paid deals. What we do not want is a repeat of last summer, when we watched a demonstration of how not to buy players. You say we don't know for sure whether United actually approached those players, but there was sufficient smoke to suggest there was a fire. What worries me about Woodward is that he throws the clubs name around, as though he expects top class players to walk on broken glass to sign for us, and that's not the case. Talk of us being the biggest club in the world comes over as cheap, throw away diatribe if you can't follow it up by sealing some deals. We heard the same absolute codswallop last summer, and by the end of the window the best we could do was to prize Marouane Fellaini away from Everton for an absolutely extortionate amount of money. As the window narrows, Woodward appears to be at it again, while the worlds finest sign elsewhere. Time will tell, but my cynicism is not ill placed at the moment, I fear.

Posted 4:19pm 31st July 2014

Synergy says...

@HarryBoulton> Given he put his money where his mouth is and signed Shaw who was a Chelsea fan and Herrera who looks like a fantastic midfielder, I am optimistic.

Lastly what they currently earn is very relevant. Last season they chased Ronaldo (never happening) & Cesc (unrealistic at that point as his relationship with Barca fans hadn't broken down). Ronaldo use the threat of return to United for a bigger pay day and Cesc could have done the same, but chose not to. And you actually think we won't pay Hummels or Vidal high wages given how important CL football is to the club, especially with regards to sponsorship deals?

Neither BVB nor Juve can match the wages being offered by United coz neither of those clubs earn anywhere close to what United do thanks to the league and sponsorship cash. And lastly before people start screaming "no CL". Falcao, James Rodrigues and João Moutinho went to Monaco last summer, a team in a average league and without CL football. Reason they did so, was Monaco (sugar daddy team) was willing to pay higher wages than other teams including most CL teams. These transfers take time and are often hit and miss. And personally I'd rather he try, than give up and start shopping in the bargain basement.

Posted 2:27pm 31st July 2014

HarryBoulton says...

@Synergy, what Vidal and Hummels currently earn is irrelevant unless we compete with what they're offered, if we can get them to engage at all. Unless Woodward is willing to actually put his money where his mouth is, there's little point to his "loadsa money" statement two weeks ago. It makes him look like a mug, and that does reflect on the club, quite badly.

Posted 1:17pm 31st July 2014

ajsr1982 (Liverpool) says...

@Harry - I actually agree with much of what you say. However, what's with the Liverpool comparisons? The only time I mention Liverpool in my previous post is to say that United should be competing with them for fourth place this season and I'm capable of looking at United dispassionately, believe it or not. United's stock is as low as I can remember it. That however is largely testament to how consistently good they have been for twenty years (and my age). Players are a fickle trophy (and money) hungry bunch, generally speaking. United's reputation isn't in a 'pit of despair' by any means. However, with Ferguson leaving and last season's finish it is as low as I can remember, so many players will think twice about joining until they see some evidence that United are on the upward curve (which I expect them to be by the end of the season). My point was simply that for the time being at least, United fans can't expect the very best players to join, and fans (some, not all) clamouring for signings such as Hummels, Kroos and even Vidal may need to lower their sights. That's not gloating, it's just harsh reality.

Posted 11:03am 31st July 2014

Mike_Christie (Manchester United) says...

@Harry As for your other point, that the players now signed are the ones went after by Moyes, I'm not sure what that's supposed to prove. Moyes and Woodward tried to sign about half the midfielders in Europe last season all to no avail. you could have picked any football fan in the country to manage United and they'd likely have chased some or all of the names on that list, I'm not sure that proves anything. However the fact that none of them showed any interest in playing for United under Moyes, yet one is here now may be telling. As for not competing with PSG for players, why the hell not? I'm not suggesting we should try and outbid them, but some players are motivated by more than money. Some would prefer to play in a serious league, for a team with history, managed by a world class manager rather than going to a second class league to be flavour of the month before the billionaire owner decides he wants another shiny bauble next season.

Posted 9:55am 31st July 2014

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