Quite a game, no? Nick Miller watched Arsenal's thrilling 1-1 draw with Everton and saw two teams who have improved, leaving certain others trailing...
In a Sunday Mailbox which is understandably dominated by Manchester United, there are a few little bits for the rest, specifically Chelsea & a Liverpool Christmas list...
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Suarez: George W Bush
Nick K, Tonbridge, yeah, I get it, you don't want George the Animal Steele running around your football club, but get a grip mate, I'm not even sure if your email was actually a parody on "game over man, game over" kind of fans beforeut if it's not a parody, get a good grip there.
You don't want your kids to approve of Suarez? Sit them down and TALK TO THEM. "This guy's a great player but he's a f*cking lunatic and here's why...". Not even 5 minutes. Instead of being afraid that 15 year old Johnny has been spending the last 5 years of Suarez's Emirates stay biting eastern Europeans outside the local Tesco, just talk to them and let them know this guy is an eejit of the highest order and REAL PEOPLE (well, most real people) aren't like that.
Suarez is the George W Bush of the Premier League, everyone is OUTRAGED at who he is and though we are all entitled to our opinions, even the popular ones, he's just a character to us news loving folks. He's not real mate, he's just a character in our own personal movies, he can be as much of a "threat" as you want him to be, you, your kids, Arsenal and Liverpool fans never have to come face to face and live in fear of him calling over to your house uninvited and wrecking your head and biting your kids and shouting at Will Smith while you're trying to watch Independence Day to avoid talking to him. He's only a mirage, a spectre lurking in the background. You can either believe in the ghost or recognise it's just a ghost. He is as real as you want him to be.
In Defence Of Brendan
I'm almost certain there'll be some scoffing at Rodgers questioning why Suarez would want to leave Liverpool for Arsenal. But is it as crazy as it sounds?
The answer is no.
You can see the merits of playing in the CL, and potentially being paid more. But a player of Suarez' calibre should be looking to win the league, looking to win the CL. Are Arsenal capable of either of these things?
The answer is no.
Arsenal fans will rally against this and say 'But with 2 or 3 players...' (a cry that's all too familiar) but the truth is this... Arsenal are not a force in domestic or european football right now. Yes, you scrape 4th every season and you can sometimes sneak past decent opposition in the CL, but should Suarez be so desperate to make what is essentially only a slight improvement?
The answer is no.
Kris, LFC, Manchester
A Gooner Agrees
I'm a gooner but I'm with Rodgers.
Liverpool have actually won the champions league despite hardly ever qualifying while we use the competition as a cash cow.
Arsenal have won bugger all in 8 years.
We've sold all our good players so no-one wants to put their head above the parapet and join a club that sees 4th place as an achievement - a decade ago we had Bergkamp, Vieira and Henry playing for us - we now have Giroud, Walcott and Ramsey who let's face it aren't fit to polish the former trio's boots.
The fans are more passionate at Anfield.
Stevie G may not have won the league but I'm sure Jack Wilshere would be happy with Gerrard's trophy haul in a decade's time.
What did make Arsenal stand out was the Arsenal way of doing things but that's myth consigned to history.
Don't sign for us Suarez - we're crap!
Graham Simons, (nothing like reverse psychology) Gooner, Norf London
After much deliberation I have decided that Liverpool might need Luis Suarez to achieve success afterall. Not because of his tenacity, dribbling skills and his eye for goal but for the sole reason that he's a c*nt.
Any successful team seems to have a very influential and talented c*nt within it's ranks. The most successful team of the premiership had one sitting at the helm for the past 20 odd years. And don't get me wrong, I don't mean that as any disrespect (as I always wished he was our c*nt) .. but as far as managers go he probably pushed the boundaries more than most and as a result always seemed to give united that extra edge. They were at their most successful when they had 2 c*nts in their ranks when Keane was there. Man City had their c*nts, Tevez and Balotelli for their title winning season, Arsenal had Viera.
Even though Suarez does tend to push c*ntishness that bit further, it can give your team that edge between winning and losing. So does anyone have a c*nt in their team that they are proud to call their own?
Larry (I'm off to wash my mouth out with soap and water) LFC
Nick K, Tonbridge's mail reminded me of a recent conversation with a girl I was seeing. She was perusing my movie collection and inquired about my seemingly random sorting scheme.
I explained that I like to organize my flicks by filmmaker and the large block she was pointing to was my collection of Woody Allen films. I explained that he was one of my favorite filmmakers. She said she hated him for his personal life, to which I countered that he's submitted one of the most culturally significant bodies of work of anyone alive in the last 50 years.
There are probably a lot of things you forgive for talent, that's just the nature of it. There are innumerable geniuses in human history with questionable personal indulgences. Da Vinci's lifelong 'assistant'' started working for him at age 15. Doctor Who, Da Vinci was not. And while I'm worried about what I might have texted on a given weekend evening, Van Gogh was waking up the next morning with a hangover and an ear in the post. That's just how it goes.
Over-moralizing is one of the biggest wastes of time in our internet culture. It's batsh*t mental that a population of deeply flawed individuals gang up on other deeply-flawed individuals because they're subjected to more expensive and enticing temptations. Almost none of these same people, of course, would be able to turn these same temptations down.
And, OMG, wealthy young men who can decide which model they want to bang on a given night don't have morality as their top priorty? A competitor lashes out at people seemingly without provocation during competition? What brand new problems in society! Let's all wring our hands together (I'm not really sure how I might go about wringing my hands, by the way).
I prefer it in the old days when Romans fed people to Lions for everyone's entertainment. Back in the days when kids respected their elders it was admirable how loyal the lions were to that freshly killed meat. They just sat quietly and ate it, they didn't demand more! And everyone had some bread and enjoyed a nice circus without having to spend the family's weekly savings for tickets.
We create rules so people will abide them (and can be punished by them) and I know morality is a whole different thing but, still, is self-satisfaction that important to people that we need to suffer people castigating the devil they know so they can feel good taking their kids to cheer the devil they don't so long as he scores a brace?
Ian, LFC (I know the answer to that) Hartford, CT USA
The Arsenal Way
There are far too many fans to list here, but can we please stop publishing all of the Arsenal fans whining about not supporting Arsenal if Suarez joins because he doesn't fit into 'the Arsenal way of doing things'.
Maybe, just maybe, that's why Wenger wants to sign him. Perhaps him - and the board - are fed up with having a team full of pleasant young men who play nice football but don't win anything for nearly a decade. Perhaps they want someone that will do whatever it takes (and quite often taking it too far clearly ) because he wants to win.
Arsenal used to have these guys. Viera, Keown, Adams etc. I don't know why suddenly that's not longer the Arsenal way.
I'm assuming all of these fans are also 20 years old or younger. Perhaps Mr. Suarez could try and fit in a bit more by:
- Accepting bungs.
- Getting arrested and jailed for driving his car 27 (yes, twenty-seven) times over the legal limit.
- Being a cocainealcohol addict, and running around miming about going out and getting drunk after winning a trophy. Sorry. Running around miming about going out getting drunk after finishing fourth.
- Playing while drunk.
- Fighting in the tunnel and throwing slices of pizza into opposing managers faces.
I can see now how wrong Suarez has been doing it. He's a lunatic on the field, but relatively sane off it. He clearly needs to reverse that to fit into Arsenal.
Don't Make Threats You Can't Etc And So On
So Nick K Tonbridge's (Please please let Real "gazump" us.....) mail yesterday got me thinking about holIow threats. I was in Vegas a few years ago and was chatting to a gentleman from the Southern States of the US who started to expose some less than enlightened views on race, and he stated that if Obama won the Presidency in 2008 he would move to Canada. I obviously have no idea if this was true or if he has actually upped-sticks and come to join us up here north of the border, but I feel pretty safe in calling it out as the bullsh*t it obviously was. Basically anything bad that happens in America causes one group to threaten to move to Canada (not that we want them).
Now, obviously this is just the stupid ramblings of a redneck racist and indicative of wider issues in the US, and definitely not comparable to football, but Nick K comes up with his phony look-at-me outrage and decision to switch to Palace from his "beloved" Arsenal for trying to sign a good player (with obvious character failings). Let's be honest, if your prepared to give up on 25 years of being a fan because of one decision made by a club then quite frankly Arsenal (and football in general) is better off without you as you obviously didn't care that much in the first place. I feel the same about the Norwich scarf brigade at Old Trafford who protested after paying for their ticket therefore achieving the greater part of bugger all, and the "Rafa Out" crowd at SB were equally pointless. But the reality of it is, as a fan you can't choose to change team, and you inevitably have to put up with some real crappy actions (compare the Suarez situation to what's happening at Coventry these days) but you don't just abandon ship when things get a little unpleasant!
So please can everyone stop threatening actions that they will never follow through with and just accept the fact that you're not happy with the status quo and move on and admit you'll still follow your team! And let's be honest, if Suarez joins and is top scorer all will be forgiven by the fickle masses.
Dave - OUFC - Calgary (just took a loan from Wonga to bet on Cisse being top scorer next season, hope he doesn't mind!)
Just because you don't seem to get many (any) emails from City fans, I thought I'd just let you know that we're all fine. We've signed a few players that seem reasonably decent human beings, we have new pies now Jamie Oliver is doing the catering and even putting in a few extra seats at the ground - whilst the new training complex and academy is being built over the road. So, you know, all good.
We're also all enjoying Moyes' public statements about the bids for Fabregas, whilst remembering his holier than thou pronouncements about the proper way to do business when we were after Lescott from Everton. It really didn't take him long to get the Manchester United mentality did it?
And yes, Negredo's shorts. Someone should have had a word.
Gav, the North.
Listen To Sir
One thing was made clear to the fans by Sir Alex in his farewell speech last season: "It's time for you to stand by our new manager." Now is it just me or is the great man's message being ignored by some United fans who seem to want to cling to the negatives as we go into the new season?
We won the league by a country mile last season without, as everyone keeps pointing out, a great midfield. For all Fergie's strengths, realizing that we were shorthanded in midfield was his main weakness, so with Moyes we have a chance to strengthen in that area. This can be achieved by buying Fabregas (doubtful but what the heck, keep at it) or even Fellaini (don't laugh) who will add much needed midfield goals along with the physically we blatantly lack.
Our pre-season results have so far been poor. So what? The aim of these is purely to get fitness into the legs and test out some of young talent. If you've been too worried about our 'demise' to enjoy the potential offered by Lingard, Januzaj and Zaha, who clearly should be a first choice winger this season, then you're missing out.
Fergie chose Moyes in order to give the club stability and a long-term outlook, so what's the point of hiring the guy if we as fans aren't prepared to see it out? I personally think that challenging for the league and winning one of the cups (2004 FA Cup seems a long time ago) could be considered a good season.
Also contrary to Dickie from yesterday's mailbox said I'm not sure if having all teams locked on zero points constitutes a "terrible start to the season" so we'll just have to wait and see there wont we.
Jordan (Not confident in the art of bracket-use yet) MUFC
I don't know why I do it to myself. I really don't. Why do I believe these things might actually happen?
We've signed Sneijder! Yesss! Oh wait....
Thiago is in the bag! Blessed news! At last, the messiah! What's that? Pep Guardiola you say? Oh.
Cesc Fabregas. Mmm Cesc. Yes please. I mean he's no Anderson but he'll do. Yes, I know he's at his boyhood club and probably holds a fair amount of antipathy towards United but still, The Daily Star tell me it could happen, in the bit after the boobies....
F**k, we're getting another striker aren't we.
For my own sanity I swore off transfer speculation this season until Moyes could actually manage to crowbar a shirt onto a shiny, new player but alas I am still a sucker for a central midfielder to United story. Could you lot please stop putting pictures of Fabregas next to the words 'Manchester United'? The crushing inevitability of our failure to trick him into playing in our midfield will be too much for my little mind.
I have two words for you David - Yohan Kebab. Trick Kinnear into swapping him for Phil Neville (I bet he's heard of Phil Neville) and then poof, problems solved, happy days.
Did anyone else spot the (presumably) unintended but genius anagram slipped into Carolyn the South London Gooner's letter yesterday (entitled "Higuain = Sheva")?
She mentions her Arsenal supporting butcher trying to ASSUAGE her despair over Higuain's move to Napoli. ASSUAGE is an anagram of SAUSAGE.
Butcher. Sausages. No? Just me.
Stu (quite partial to a porky link myself actually), Leeds
Enjoyed Matt Stanger's piece this morning on alternative striking options for Arsenal but, other than Wayne Rooney, the options he comes up with fall short in terms of the two key facets to Arsenal's chase for a forward this summer: undoubted quality and the "statement" factor. Have two more who would fulfill both criteria more closely, in my opinion:
1) Cesc Fabregas
Granted, all his best work for Arsenal was done in the area currently occupied by one of Cazorla, Wilshire or Rosicky but we all know that he's getting pretty used to playing as the nominal focal point of a front three. Granted, that wouldn't be our optimal set up all the time this season, but his ability to drop off and thread passes through to a rampaging Waldolski would undoubtedly help us break down the more stubborn opposition. Meanwhile, in terms of making a statement, he'd be some f*cking statement for all sorts of reasons.
2) Romelu Lukaku
Stealing away a player with the kind of potential Lukaku has from London rivals may be nigh on impossible, but a massive bid (£25-30 million perhaps?) might make them think twice. If the pursuit of Rooney becomes reality, Lukaku stands to slip even further down the Stamford Bridge pecking order, and anyone who watched the kid at Brom last season will know that he already has the quality to play a role in and around the first team at a Champions League club. Let's be honest, he's the striker we've been crying out for since watching Drogba bully a succession of centre-backs at the Emirates for all those seasons.
So there you have it. Maybe I'm dreaming, but isn't that part of the fun of following a football club?
The Worst Wenger Buys
Not sure if this has been done before, but it's late and me and my mate, after talking about potential Arsenal transfers, got talking about the worst Wenger signings... and I think we've got the makings of a comfortable relegation outfit here... They would probably manage to get relegated with the least goals ever scored in a season. (Santos to be top scorer)
Sylvestre Squillaci Cygan Santos
Pennant Bischoff Hleb
Park Jeffers Chamakh
So with all this talk of missing out on Higuain and the potential signing of the bitey racist, cheer up fellow gooners, it has been a lot worse!
Saeed (with a little help from Bellamy), London
Did I miss the mailbox when you were all talking about this guy?
Aidan - Irish Liverpool fan in London