The result may have been meaningless as Arsenal again crashed out of the Champions League in the last 16, but the performance was anything but. The Ox was hugely impressive...
One Spurs fan has had quite enough of Tim Sherwood's schtick, whilst Jack Rodwell takes a kicking too. Plus one chap who thinks United will still get in the top four...
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The tackle by Schneiderlin on Welbeck when he was clean through on goal and maybe a clear yard away from him in the second half of the United/Saints game is the reason I love football.
Is David Moyes the worst signing Sir Alex Ferguson made since Erik Djemba Djemba??
Well, This Is A Bit Strong
Just coming out of OT and I just don't care anymore.
Another **** performance.
Another 90 minutes of watching players who were good last season and don't seem to have a clue where they're playing this year.
Get Moyes out before it's too late, he's out of his depth and it's getting worse every week.
Leon (MUFC as if you haven't guessed)
'Grow Some Balls'
Moyes isn't a failure as a Man U manager at the moment but it's hard to see things improving in a hurry unless he grow some balls and stops wetting himself every time the other team starts attacking a bit.
Southampton are a decent team but you are at home, you are one nil up with Rooney and Van Persie up front...You don't play for one nil you go for goals. Would Fergie's team have let in a last minute goal? Possibly but they would have probably also scored one more rather than sitting back and asking for trouble. (Admittedly he did this against the very top teams...we tended to lose these games).
I wouldn't be surprised if Kagawa and Hernandez go in the summer, at home against a decent but not spectacular team you imagine they would rather fancy their chances of replacing Rooney and Nani when they came off... But no, Giggs and Smalling. Terrific.
More Assorted United Guff
Instant thoughts from the game:
- What does it say about the manager when you leave Kagawa and Zaha on the bench at home when you're narrowly winning against a team that is threatening to score and bring on:
A) An ageing legend who has simply nothing to offer in place of your creative outlet
B) A player who doesn't know whether he is a striker or the next Park.
I don't mind not winning as long as players Like Kagawa and Zaha are getting a chance. But keeping two of your brightest stars on the bench isn't really the best way to start your tenure.
- 78th minute. Welbeck ýis put through with a chance to put it away. Instead the bounding rabbit takes a touch and allows the defender to make the tackle. Hard to swallow when you've seen Van Nistelrooy latch on to a similar ball at Highbury and run through to score in THAT 2-2 draw. Why did I compare them? Because there's a video that shows a young Welbeck nutmeg Ruud during training. Safe to say no real talent was passed on.
- And finally - Moyes should be criticised for substitutions and the formations. Absolutely agree. But again - where is the drive and desire?! Where is the grit and determination of champions!? Fergie's face was thunder after the equaliser. I just wish he'd march down to the dressing room and give them a piece of his mind.
Untenable is not a word I would like to use as a supporter. I've been accused of being plastic but I'm determined to see my team through. However, these performances do keep imprinting this word on my mind.
Budhaditya (Come on Moyes - get out of the shell)
Hilariously sarcastic headline... Enjoy our pain while it lasts - it will not be long.
Regardless of who I support in the Premier League I think it is ridiculous that the headline on your website is "Plucky Man United climb to Eighth...".
There is so much more that could be said:
- Three teams score 4 goals
- 10 man Newcastle United hold Liverpool to a draw
- Swansea thrash Sunderland on Gus's debut
- Southampton's great start confinues with a draw at Old Trafford
and, of course:
- Arsenal dominate Norwich to go two points clear
But you choose to laud MUFC as plucky when they were rudderless and based on last year's trophy should be higher that 8th. Are you their marketing department?
The Fellaini Mistake
I know it's still early in his career, but signing Fellaini looks like a textbook transfer mistake: good player, wrong system. Moyes failed to adequately respond to Rooney's demand to play upfront. Of course, while its understandable Wayne wants to play in his favoured position, it pushed Moyes into a corner. But hey, you're the manager of Manchester United! If a player doesn't want to fit in your system, sell him. Or the alternative is to adapt. And Moyes didn't. Instead of signing a mobile, energetic midfielder which is essential if you're going to play two upfront, he signed his earmarked familiar Belgian. There's no running from midfield and therefore United rely on crosses or the forwards to make something out of nothing.
Negligence over the last 5 years needs to be put right in the next two transfer windows. I still have faith in Moyes and feel desperately sorry for him, because while he's made mistakes, he's had very little luck. United's players have also been fantastic off the pitch in taking responsibility off the manager, shame they've forgotten how to do their actual job.
It was always going to be tough at the start, but a team reflects their manager, and once Moyes settles back to his menacing ways United will too.
Well...this isn't going well is it. Another less than inspiring performance at Old Trafford. However, unlike a few Utd fans I know, I still don't think its doomsday yet. There is still plenty of football left and judging Moyes right now is a bit too early. Not that Moyes is making it any easier for us to defend him. Fergie's last words and the patience we have gained during his tenure are protecting Moyes for now but he must realise that it is not going to last forever.
Onto the match then. There were actually a few positives i thought.
- The team selection was pretty good actually, giving Januzaj another start paid dividends..and that pass was sublime. I am not going too overboard with the kid right now...Macheda's memories are still not gone...but the boy looks really talented. Even Nani had a pretty decent game.
- The defence looked pretty comfortable and it was good to see Evans back. He will leading our defence in years to come and should be the first choice centre back.
- Good to see RvP back in the goals. And to see a play from open play. (Is it just me or it is sad that scoring a goal from open play is now a thing to get optimistic from).
Unfortunately there are still may problems.
- Central midfield still is a big issue. Fellaini hasn't really had any good games till now, either average or just bad. Perhaps he really understands his role in the team..whether to be a destroyer or box-to-box...but he certainly hasn't looked a 28million pound midfielder yet. His passing is abysmal.
- The big one then. The substitutions. Did Moyes really mess that up or what. Three negative substitutions, (well 2 really but Welbeck just looks a negative player), at OT, against Southampton. That isn't going to endear him to the fans. He must realise that for a club like ours, intent is almost as important as the result. Getting a CD on for our best player this season with 10 mins still to go just is not the United way. He is still learning all this but he really should speed up.
- Southampton are a pretty decent side and they dominated the game in large parts. Seeing their recent form it wasn't surprising to see them muster a fightback. What was worrying was Moyes reaction to the fightback. I have said this earlier too, Moyes changes when things aren't goin our way have been alarming...changes are usually too slow to come (see Man City) and largely ineffective.
- Do United need more signings or what.
At the beginning of the season I predicted a top 3 finish would be good enough for Moyes, satisfying the board as well as most of the fans. On our current form as well as others, top 3 is looking out of reach and even top 4 might be challenge given the good form and unpredictability of Pool, spurs and everton. Moyes and the team really need to up their game now before a sense of gloom and doom becomes prevalent at Old Trafford
Liverpool were incredibly disappointing today, much as they were after the last international break (against Southampton). Unfortunately none of our close competitors displayed the same lethargy and we've slipped down the league a little bit. I know it's not a lot but it's so much easier not chasing others in the league (unless you're a blood hound style manager like SAF I guess)...
The real frustration set in after the sending off. The players should've had the competency to dispatch Newcastle but failed for a couple of key reasons in my opinion. First of all, Moses was drifting far too central. The result of this was that we lacked width and didn't stretch Newcastle at all. Trying to run through a barrier of 2 banks of 4 is very difficult and whenever we played the ball wide and worked this space we looked far more dangerous. Moses didn't really deserve to last the full 90 minutes given how wasteful he was in possession. I remember three times in the middle of the pitch he had options to the left and right but got tackled instead. It was not good viewing. This performance was made more confusing because against Swansea he was so effective down the left and I couldn't understand why he was so committed to taking up a central position today.
The second reason for our tepid performance was our desire, following the sending off, to try and retain the ball for longer periods. As the wonderful chaps in your office have already pointed out - we've looked far more threatening when moving the ball quickly and directly towards the goal. The slow probing build up wasn't effective today against two deep lying banks of four.
Overall, this was a massively frustrating result, probably more so than the loss to Southampton. While we didn't deserve to take three points away today, and at no point were actually winning this game, top 4 teams tend to make a man advantage count. Our failure to do so could prove costly as the tougher games approach.
At the risk of tempting fate...
......are Arsenal back?
Simon (hope not) CFC
Surely the 'King of the Assists' should have squared the ball across instead of scoring a second goal. Overrated, Arsene should ask for his money back!
Ian, Ely (watched the goals on YouTube and I'm now saying Ozilllllll and Arsenallllll)
Bale apparently dived for a penalty for Real this weekend, I imagine the Spanish equivalent of Football365 is filled with fuming letters about those pesky foreigners diving all over the place.
Anonymous (Do I still get brackets?