Moyes Is Beginning To Sound Like A Broken Record

You might say the same about Matt Stanger as he analyses another poor United display, but the champions will remain the biggest story until they stop losing. That might not be soon...

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ManUtd99 says...

allaboutunited.... Its not the fact of what they did differently its the fact they were there for 20 years!!! experience was what they had!!!!!! Renne was also let go again all the players loved him!! SAF said "Keep what we've got, keep the continuity, work with them and they'll guide you through". I think that's the view of most man utd fans

Posted 10:55am 7th February 2014

solskjaer99 (Manchester United) says...

@allaboutunited Of course, Moyes and his coaching staff are doing a great job, with the way the team are playing, and the results that just get better and better, it's hard to believe why anyone would be saying otherwise.

Posted 10:29am 4th February 2014

allaboutunited says...

@Dalglishdagger.....I'll ask you because no one else can actually answer, what in gods name did Mike Phelan and the goal keeping coach do at United that was so vital that hasn't been replaced by a better GK coach, Giggs, P Nev.....and Fergie upstairs?? He only got rid of two staff members. It really has to be the dumbest accusation I've seen levelled at Moyes, made by people who don't even know what the coaches were doing! Hopefully a Liverpool fan can explain, because I think it's complete nonsense.

Posted 8:39am 4th February 2014

summerofcmpunk (Tottenham Hotspur) says...

United have been playing boring football for almost 3 years now. That aint really Moyes ginger fault

Posted 3:26am 4th February 2014

red tom (Manchester United) says...

Think the most depressing thing about all of this for most United fans is constantly hearing "his job's not under threat" or "they won't sack him" and "He'll be given time to get it right" - not only are we slowly sliding and being relentlessly mocked by our fellow fans (completely understandable) we are also being damned with faint praise by the media about our stability - it is the journalistic equivalent of the kind of face you pull when your dad asks how you use an iPhone. So while he seems to be a pretty nice guy he doesn't seem to have the backing of the players. He might have raised the level of several players - most notably Welbeck - but this seems to have been to the detriment of the team collective i.e. there is less team play in an attacking sense beyond the rudimentary (attack the byline get the cross in) and with increasing focus on the individual to create imaginative attacking play. It has created a very confused pattern of play, with less ability to put pressure on our opponents while exposing the weaknesses of the defence. I think most people agree that the defence of Barca could be "got at" if given the opportunity (even in the Guardiola days) however their strengths - ball retention & slick passing - mitigated this weakness, United have the same weakness but their old strengths of being able to build up momentum in the final twenty minutes where the team could turn the screw and attack from multiple angles has seemingly been all but coached out them in less than 6 months. This is a concern for me as a United and England because while I know plenty like to slag off United players but the English core they have really are very good players but they are on course for having their confidence entirely obliterated, the danger being that they will less than useless for England come the World Cup.

Posted 4:44pm 3rd February 2014

rodger's gusset (Liverpool) says...

@redgenesis You raise a good point about Hughes coming in, I really think he would do a good job at Utd. He has done a decent job so far with Stoke and I liked him at City. He knows the Prem well and his background at Utd makes him the ideal choice. I always thought Ancelotti would have been great at OT. Can't really blame Moyes for accepting the job, not to go over old ground again, BUT his failure to use the backroom staff already in place is either total ineptitude or arrogance...maybe even both.

Posted 1:50pm 3rd February 2014

joemanutd (Manchester United) says...

What freaks me out now is that it's no longer a shock when we loose to teams we used to mop the floor with. I appreciate that if Moyes didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all but that said you make your own luck in life and football. I have yet to see any sense that Moyes has a game plan, it's all wing play with substandard wingers. The introduction of Welbeck has taken the biscuit for me, we can all agree that Fletch comes on Rooney plays further forward and we play with a 4 3 3. It's one thing having the fans loose faith in the manager but I sense the payers are as well. Assuming they ever did!

Posted 12:16pm 3rd February 2014

badwolf (Manchester United) says...

It has gotten tiresome. Its unfortunate that he HAS had some actually quite crazily bad luck with decisions and injuries... BUT the biggest problem is not the players but him. The rot has to be stopped now before it sets in. It needed a big personality to come in and reshape the team. If it was about being conservative and not spending big money, clearly that's gone out the window! Klopp, or... christ, even Hughes or Bruce!

Posted 10:44am 3rd February 2014

Synergy says...

Moyes lost my support a while back and it wasn't due to the losses, rather the fact his teams play poor football. So much talent on the field and so damm boring to watch. Can't believe in less than a year he has transformed United playing style from an exciting uptempo style into the cure for insomnia. All they do is pass to the wings and put in hopeful crosses or lump the ball ahead. There is no quick interplay, no clever runs from midfield, no sustained pressure where they pass the ball around and probe the defense looking for openings. Even our fabled, hit them on the break seem to rarely happen. We seem to have lost the concept of passing football.

Add to this the defense, even when full strength, seems unorganized and panic (so much for defensive coach) and while Cleverly is hardly a great midfielder, he is competent and SAF won a title with him playing midfield, so he isn't as useless as the Moyes loyalist make him out to be.

And worst of all, he started Mata on the wings. So you spend 37 mil on a player whose strengths are creativity and ball control and weaknesses are pace and you assign him a job which requires pace? Someone inform Moyes that it isn't the 1980s and there are formations apart from 4-4-2 that can be used, especially when your wingers are Young and Valencia.

Posted 6:15am 3rd February 2014

c00gs (Manchester United) says...

If he survives till next season he will be a VERY lucky man. He had more than enough time to sign players in the summer, City, Chelsea, and Everton are all teams that changed leadership in the summer and all strengthened while the market was open, and as a result look light years ahead of United. His tactics too are holding them back, they have the luxury of having 3 very good attacking midfielders in the shape of Kagawa, Mata and in a sense Rooney as well as having the the young man with bags of potential Adnan Januzaj. Putting three of them behind RVP would being an amazing attacking potential onto the field that would cause problems for any side in the world. Unfortunately Moyes instead persists with wingers like Young who are bang average at their very best, and Valencia who unfortunately seems to have been diminished by his injuries. The attacking threat they pose in games has for the most part this season been non-existent, but still Moyes persists with them. In regard to Champions League qualification this quote from Apollo 13 springs to mind, "failure is not an option". For a side that only last season were title winners that statement could not be more true, for Moyes to turn league winners into Europa League hopefuls is frankly pathetic and he is showing no sign of improving the situation whatsoever. While on face value he seems to have the support of the club I think this is going to be a massive month for him, and it has already started terribly. With two more relegation candidates plus an injury hit Arsenal to play they have to be aiming for a 7 point haul from those 3 games as a minimum. Failure to beat Palace and Fulham would be a joke and would almost certainly seal the man's fate.

Posted 3:09am 3rd February 2014

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