One Mailboxer may have spent lunch in the pub in suggesting Van Persie could go back to Arsenal. Also, some Premier League meh-ing and a fine Acewatch suggestion...
Even the lesser teams have players like Luis Suarez and Romelu Lukaku so it's all bloody good fun. But mostly the mailbox features United fans being told to grow up...
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Peter chipped in with a wonderful mail this morning which led me to waste 10 minutes of my own life on a single photo on the Arsenal Facebook page. All of these gems are from ONE PHOTO.
"Wenger z the main problem @ Arsenal, w respect his past service,bt now he must just retire ,as long he is ther--trophieless!"
"Wenger go in away from Arsenal ur a failure"
"what re u guiz smoking over there#emirates get some doing signing stop dis craps"
"we need new sign"
"We need a good striker and gk hello!! (Doomed)"
"Thor its so angry hw wenger is avoiding to buy expensive players"
and a personal favourite...
"give 2 mi d cannibal Suarez"
I implore everyone to go and check out your teams Facebook photos.
Luca James Sparks
Owen Hargreaves is current unattached. If things get really desperate, Moyes could just 'phone him up and ask if he fancies a game.
United Fans: Remember Avram
Firstly, to Guy Adam - it was a friendly. They didn't show they cared, because they didn't, and neither should anyone else.
Secondly, to all the Man Utd (and other) fans thinking that Ferguson leaving will instantly destroy the mentality of the team and their chances, remember this: Chelsea have made the Champions League final twice - once under Avram Grant and once under Di Matteo. Grant, indeed, very nearly led Chelsea to a league (we were goal difference behind going into the last day) and Champions League (one John Terry slip away in the penalty shootout) double in his first season. That he didn't was down to some bad luck and inheriting a side already off the pace. Moyes may be no Ferguson, but he's not as much of a downgrade in motivational powers as Grant was from Mourinho. Team spirit doesn't, and won't, disappear that quickly.
If, as seems likely, Chelsea sign Rooney and Man Utd sign Fellaini and Baines, I'd argue that all the top 3 will start the season stronger than last year (Chelsea mostly because of retuning loanees) and we could have a genuine 3-way title battle on our hands. Arsenal, with or without Suarez, won't be in the running. Spurs could well finish 4th, but still look a way off that top 3. Given the gap between those teams and the rest, I'd expect talk of a 'big 5' to emerge this year.
Tim Colyer, Chelsea fan, London
Newcastle: An Optimist's View
As us Newcastle fans are generally laughing manically into our Shearer teddy bears due to JFK's arrival, I thought I give you my (slightly too optimistic) opinion on the up and coming season.
Goalies- Krul and Elliot aren't the best in the league, but for our upper midtable aspirations (our time in the Championship is still fresh), they are good enough stoppers. They need to stop kicking long every single time though (Seriously! Every time!).
Defence- A back 4 of Debuchy, Coloccini, Taylor/Yanga-Mbiwa and Santon is ok and solid enough. I quite liked the look a Haidara before Wigan tried a bit of home surgery on him and he will be able enough back up with Taylor/Yanga-Mbiwa.
Midfield- This is were I and Pardiola have different views. I'd quite like to see a Cabaye-Sissoko-Antia trio or with Goufran/Ben Arfa/Remy in a 4. Tiote for me is too untidy, likely to lose the ball and uses maximum force for every pass, seriously, he proper blammers it at everyone (anyone else play nee-blammers rule with casers as a kid?). Also, he is not happy until he has been booked. Jonas, Marveux, Gosling and Obertoon can take over if we have injuries suspensions, but we don't have the resources for a much better subs bench. As an aside, we should not have let Perch go in my view, he was a more than able utility player and better then what we have been left with.
Up Front- It would be nice to get another in, but I fear that might be asking too much. Cisse has looked like he needs a pal to play with, and as I said earlier, lumping the ball to him is a useless tactic. Remy can offer us some pace and a wide option but half a season does not make Premiership player. Also, he might end up in chokey. Goufran and Ben Arfa might also be useful in different formations. It would be nice to have a player who could score from crosses though...come back Big Daddy Nolan...and how can I forget the Mackum Slayer? Shola is good for running a game down and slaying the unwashed.
Overall, I'd like to think we could avoid the drama of last season (I did enjoy Europe and will miss the Thursday nights in the pub) and will hopefully finish between 14th and 10th without to much trouble...alas trouble finds us...in fact we actively call trouble up and ask it round for a bit of slap and tickle. fortunately, everyone is focusing on the transfer sagas and a grown man being an a**ehole to people who have made themselves a**eholes by defending his a**ehole behaviour. Also, please, please, please practice taking corners! I think we have surpassed 300 corners since we last scored from one! 300! Surely laws of averages dictate one should go in off an a**e or defender or something! Just smash it across the 6 yard box a co*k height for Christ's sake!
Where's me teddy....
Suarez To Dortmund?
Should Liverpool try offer Suarez to Dortmund for 40 million flat.
I know it's a reduced fee to what the player is worth (if Bale is worth 100 million), but it means he would not be going to a rival for a top four spot. Arsenal with Suarez could possibly challenge for the title. Without him, they will be in a close fight for fourth with United (spurs for 3rd). It would weaken our rivals and give us the opportunity to put more pressure on the CL places. And Dortmund would have a ready made replacement for RL when he leaves for Bayern next season.
Jonathan, LFC - Ireland
Mark, MTFC's is asking the wrong question, when he asks whether a top footballer would rather join Liverpool or Arsenal at this point in time. Arsenal is clearly more desirable, by any criteria.
The point Liverpool fans have been making is that as Suarez is clearly a good enough footballer to play for any team in the world, why would he take such a small step up from Liverpool to Arsenal? If the last 8 years are anything to go by, he won't win any trophies, it is extremely unlikely that he'll seriously challenge in the Champions League, and he'll end up needing to spit his dummy out and demand yet another transfer in 2-2.5 years.
The question is not whether you would rather join Liverpool, or join Arsenal. The question is whether you would immediately leave Liverpool to play for Arsenal before needing to transfer yet again in 2-3 years to actually win trophies, or whether you would stay at Liverpool for 6-12 months longer while you wait for more potentially successful clubs (City, Chelsea, PSG, Barca, Real, Juve, Milan, Inter, Bayern) to make an offer for you. I would not begrudge Suarez leaving Liverpool for 40m GBP this summer if he were joining one of those clubs, but doing so to make a tiny step up to Arsenal doesn't make any sense.
Oliver Dziggel, Geneva Switzerland
Enjoying The Douchebaggery
In a funny kind of way, I've enjoyed the assorted douchebaggery of the various players and managers. With the fake requirement for "loyalty" and being seen to be "doing things the right way", I've come to the following conclusions:
Selling clubs expect others to pay the maximum for a transfer, but buying clubs are vilified for daring to pay the bare minimum. Why would Arsenal pay a penny more than they have to? And why is that approach disrespectful to Liverpool? Surely it's disrespectful to Arsenal by blatently trying to extort money for a miserable Suarez, who is desperate to leave. Has it occurred to anyone, that he's seen the signings this summer and thought, Liverpool are not stronger......
Liverpool are no longer a big club (shock horror), they are a historically big club. This transfer is damaging Liverpool for the future, as I can't imagine many players thinking that Liverpool are a club of their word - I should play there (regardless of truth of the matter). The longer this goes on, the greater the negative impact.
Managers are allowed to increase their career prospects, players aren't unless the club can get what they want for a player first. Loyalty also is a temporal value which is forgotten when players are no longer of any use to the club and are released.
Sir Alex Ferguson's value to Man U is increasing with everyday, a bad start and I can see them struggling to make the top 4.
David Moyes doesn't know what he's doing at Man U, and tests the water every so often by telling the world that he doesn't really know what he's doing at Man u. I think most marquee players (and their agents) can see this, and will avoid until he proves otherwise. Rooney probably knows this already, hence he hasn't changed his mind about leaving.
Chelsea are really too quiet, something will happen. Could Abramovich sack Mourinho before the season starts?
Pardeep Kalsi (innovating with Brackets after surname)
No Credit For Brendan
In response to John Cardy, I don't think Brendan Rodgers has handled the situation that well at all.
Liverpool used to be a club that was famed for keeping their issues indoors, dealing with them in house and not airing their dirty laundry in public. Let Suarez sound off all he likes, but fine him or deal with him away from the public eye. You shouldn't do anything as a club that publicly weakens your position. Arsenal are now aware that there is a full on crisis at Liverpool now and that they could be desperate to get rid, which drives the price down a bit. Suarez isn't the sort of character who will swallow his pride...he will agitate. Don't comment on it officially as a club and let the press speculate all they want, it can only continue if given oxygen
Secondly, I don't doubt for a minute that Rodgers and Suarez had a gentlemans agreement last summer that he could leave if Liverpool didn't get CL football. Brendan Rodgers is a man who makes these agreements and then goes back on them at a moments notice. He promised Huw Jenkins he would not come calling for Swansea players when he left, and immediately came in for Joe Allen. He then tried to upset the applecart with Sigurdsson before Liverpool were rejected in favour of a move to Spurs. Something just doesn't sit right with me regarding Rodgers. He looks well out of his depth at a club of that size and just comes across awkward and clumsy. He comes out with soundbites as if he wants to be quoted in 30 or 40 years time like Shankly and Paisley are now..the problem is, Shankly and Paisley won things and are revered for that reason...take their trophies away from them and keep their quotes about life or death etc and they would be dismissed as eccentrics like Rodgers inevitably will.
All in all, Liverpool should get shot of Suarez now and get a couple of replacement players in. For all his precocious talent, he is bloody unreliable. Off the top of my head, he will have missed 26 games through suspension in the past 3 and a half years. That is shocking. Also, for all the goals he scored, I don't think Liverpool particularly suffer when he doesn't play. It's not like Bale who dragged us through a couple of months whilst we had no fit strikers. Liverpool were always a club I admired for their history and tradition, but Suarez really tested that. I think Liverpool have lost a lot of admirers amongst other supporters and neutrals due to his behaviour and they will be better off as a club when he leaves.
Moyes Money, Moyes Problems
Forgive me, I'm beginning to get a little confused.
David Moyes is being criticised for having a wage spend which is the 11th or 12th highest in the Premier League, which supposedly makes him less of a manager than he's often made out to be?
In the last nine years, Everton have finished 4th, 11th, 6th, 5th, 5th, 8th, 7th, 7th and 6th.
So even forgetting about the transfer spends of each Premiership club (Everton generally come in at about 15th-16th on that marker, and given that we finished 16th under our previous manager it's pretty clear most clubs might have spent heavily to have improved their squad) Moyes has finished at least three places higher in the league than the 'wages' marker would suggest should be 'expected' eight times out of the last nine, and below that level exactly no times at all.
As for mention of 'big six' clubs, and Everton not being one, well fair enough. But Everton have finished in the top six under David Moyes five times in the last nine years. This may not make him the League's best manager, but to be honest, it's impossible to see how anyone can claim he hasn't 'achieved', even given the ability to pick solely the stats which back up particular arguments.
Our Friends In The North
I read Andi Thomas' article about the Charity/Community Shield and how it fits into the narrative of the upcoming football season and becoming a relic of a bygone era. Personally, I think the game is still relevant but is being affected by poor scheduling and also that the FA's own actions play a part in how the demand for tickets are lower.
Firstly, I agree with the point that for a new season 'curtain raiser'. The fact that the game is played after the start of the season (for those who think only the EPL exists, this will be Wigan's 2nd competitive game - and it is a competitive game - there's a trophy to play for) obviously diminishes the lustre of the game as salivating football-starved fans have already been able to watch a game or two - kind of like opening some of your presents on Christmas Eve detracts from the actual day itself. It always seemed like it was the first 'proper' game of the season where teams first test their mettle against each other and could provide a good barometer of how the upcoming season would go (I remember seeing Diouf's debut was in the Charity Shield and thinking 'he ain't going to ever be as good as he was in the World Cup')
Secondly, the inability to sell out the game is not just an issue of the games (lack of) importance. As a Wigan fan I'm not bothering to go to the game. Whilst it may be the last time we play at Wembley in a very long time/ever, I feel the way the fans have been considered in the arrangements for the FA Cup games were atrocious. In particular the rationale that 'fan's preferred' a 5.15 kick-off (twice for us) when travelling from 200 miles away was ridiculous. There were no trains to get back at that time and as we played Man City in the final all the roads back to the North West were busy meaning we got back past 2 in the morning.
Due to this I never want to go back to watch football at Wembley again, which is a shame because I would really want to watch a few England games there but if the FA need fans like myself to attend to pay off the stadium then they need to look to put on games at times that are more suitable. You'll notice that there will be a lot less Wigan fans (were there any at all, fnarr fnarr) there on Sunday which is partly down to this reason and will be voting with their feet after being so shoddily treated by the FA. Another is that Wigan Warriors are there for the Rugby League Challenge Cup final later this month which is great achievement for the team and the town and incidentally starts at a decent time that will mean fans from the North will get home before Sunday.
David (10,000 season tickets sold and looking good to break last season's total), WAFC
Only Because It's You, Smyth
I was reading Johnny Nic's article on what shirt names/numbers we should wear and was amazed to discover that he was a rock n' roller back in the day. Has he ever brought this up in the office? Because it's the first time he's mentioned it in one of his articles.
Next he'll be saying he once played in a rock band and spent some time out in America....
Smyth, MUFC (also been to America, no band though)
Surely I can't be the only one who read Dick, Birmingham's mail this morning, re-read it and still thought 'what!?' and felt slightly sad afterwards but doesn't really know why.
Cliff Mallinder, AFC (transfer window profit ahoy!)