Moyes is lacking 'charismatic authority', Kieran Gibbs is defended, Chelsea's problems are examined and a dreadful chant attacked. It's a glorious mailbox...
Fear is stopping Moyes dismantling Fergie's team, we are told. Plus, one Arsenal fan digs at Gibbs and mails on Martinez, the Group of Death and a Spurs Christmas list...
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Some Unhappy Spurs
AVB can do one. Maybe all the PSG talk has gone to his head and he's starting to believe all the hype. I thought we'd seen the last of this type of behaviour - the sort of behaviour that got him sacked from Chelsea.
Nervy fans aren't an uncommon situation - the Gooners had it bad a few seasons back, so he should think carefully before giving the Martin Samuels a little fickle stick to beat the Tottenham fans with. That lazy journalism has existed for a long time, he should be doing what he can to rally against it, not fuel it. And without wanting to get all caveman - we were here for a long time before him, and we'll be here for a long time after him.
To be frank, I think his management has been poor this season. He's been given a few good problems he wasn't counting on, such as the form of Townsend and Sigurdsson. But he's made a serious of strange decisions and his inability to properly incorporate Lamella and Erikson is a bit of a joke. Right now Spurs are getting on well enough in spite of rather than because of him.
Andrew, Woodford Green
...After spending over 100 Million pounds on your team is it any wonder the fans aren't exactly screaming from the rafters when most games you can't even score from open play and have to rely on some of the softest penalties I've seen in years to gift you 3 points?
Maybe work on that before criticising your own fans AVB.
Luca James Sparks
What AVB Should Have Said
"When teams come to the Lane and try to defend, it is always going to be difficult, and we really need the fans support in these moments. Our fans are the best in the world and with their support we can beat anybody here. Sometimes in these games they can get a bit anxious and this transmits to the players, but if they trust us, and support us and really get behind us, we can achieve great things."
It's not what AVB has said that has annoyed me, it's how he said it...
Pellegrini Should Take Some Flak
Manchesters City and United have had pretty similar opening fixtures: both have played three of the other top-8 teams; City have played five games against sides who were promoted or finished last season in the bottom half, United have played four. After those fixtures, United are 8th while City are in 7th, just two points ahead. So why is it that F365's opinion pieces and the mailbox have been saturated with questions about Moyes ability, but barely a peep has been whispered about Pellegrini?
You often here Moyes being criticised for never having won anything before coming to United, but since arriving in Europe nine years ago, Pellegini has the sum total of one Intertoto Cup to his name (and he's been at clubs, not least Real Madrid who actually spend money and expect to win trophies, unlike the much more limited budget ambitions at a club like Everton). People also say that Moyes has taken the champions backwards; but City were also champions only 18 months ago, and finished second last year. Over the summer Pellegini was given a net £90m to spend where Moyes only got £30m.
So why is Pellegrini facing nothing like the same scrutiny? Part of it is probably the Fergie factor: there was always going to be massive interest in and scrutiny of whoever replaced him (although, if anything, this amount of pressure should make people judge Moyes a little more leniently). But I think there's also probably big dose of the reverse xenophobia you get among the type of football fan that writes for and reads F365. British managers are perceived as a bit dull, whereas foreign managers are seen as much more exciting and sophisticated. They also give football hipsters a chance to show off their knowledge of River Plate's 2002-3 title-winning side.
I've seen the same thing happen with other managers. Redknapp and AVB have a pretty similar level of achievement at Spurs - if anything Redknapp achieved more, although AVB's clearly got a longer-term plan, so it's too early to judge him yet. But, reading a lot of fans' opinions, you'd think Redknapp is a clueless buffoon and AVB a genius. Much of that, I'd guess, comes down to the fact that Redknapp is an old-school English manager with a line in tiresome cheeky-chappy shtick, loved by Sun readers, whereas AVB is a suave, gravel-voiced, immaculately bearded foreign sophisticate who knows about things like 'tactics'.
Anyway, looking forward to seeing in the near future a long Johnny Nich piece on how Pellegrini isn't big-time enough for the City job.
John (not even a United fan) Daniels
Saturday Was Like Fergie's United
Funny how some (including Football365 it seems) are using the fact that we had to come from behind against a poor side as proof that Moyes isn't up to the task of replacing Fergie.
Funny because if anything can be described as a Ferguson style victory, it's what we saw yesterday. Shocking for long periods then get the goals at the end when it matters. There have been plenty of games like that over the last few years (Newcastle at home last year immediately sprung to mind as I was typing this) but people seem to have forgotten about this already.
I'd almost go as far as saying a comeback win like this will be better for confidence than a straightforward 2-0. It shows that we still have good spirit and CAN still come back in games, even without the great man.
We're never done things the easy way. At least this time we actually got the points!
Tom - MUFC (Cheshire)
Some Manchester Facts
1. City have lost the same number of games as United.
2. Moyes has taken more points off Chelsea than Manuel has.
3. City have still to play more 'big' games than United.
4. For all of City's talent, they're just 2 points away from the 'free-falling' United.
I'm just having fun. You really CAN use facts to mask anything. Football is fun.
Not A Fan Of The NE Derby
As a man born and bred in the North East who is currently residing in Newcastle ( the plush part predominantly populated by stoned students living in cavernous frat houses) the Sunderland vs Newcastle fixture is particularly hard to avoid and it is one from which i derive absolutely no pleasure.
As a football match, i found it perfectly absorbing. I feel Poyet got his tactics right by bypassing the midfield, placing two battlers in the middle to win any loose balls and going direct to two physically imposing target men who were able to exploit an inexperienced defensive pairing. I was pleased Sunderland got the victory even though it looked as if Newcastle may take a point. I'm happy to draw a line under it from there.
But for the majority of the North East derby day provides a microcosm of the most apathetic areas of football. My friends are not keen football followers, nor have they ever been, but for this particular fixture its seen as a cardinal sin not to have an allegiance. So for two days a year every halfwit who has ever seen a trailer for Geordie Shore rummages through the FIFA 14 database to equip himself with stats on players and Googles derogatory stock phrases to aim at Sunderland supporters. The entire area is gripped with faux-anticipation and the end result is entirely inconsequential. SKY will fete the fixture as one of the most keenly contested derbies in football and claim the North-East has come to a standstill, which it has but only because you're stuck in a supermarket queue behind upteen middle-aged men who're stocking up on 12 crates so they can get a solid 4 hours of drinking in before the match, there is a degree of fanfare and ceremony but it is more akin to imagining if Carlsberg had sponsored the Royal Wedding.
To those who obtained or tried to obtain tickets, i cannot question the significance of this fixture, particularly with the prospects for both sides looking so dim. The core fanbases of the two clubs are incredibly passionate but the subsidiary "support" is nauseating. I suppose this ties in with the real vs plastic debate on some level, but this is predominantly just me venting my frustrations at this ridiculous facade. Maybe it is downright weird for me to be in such proximity to this rivalry and feel such apathy towards it.. I have spent the day in black and white but it was that of my club Darlington, being constantly asked who i wanted to win today was simply met by the phrase " I hope they both f*cking lose.
JCDFC, (Sorry, this needed to be vented somewhere, and my stoned housemates in our plush cavernous frat house are sick of hearing it.)
In Praise Of Brendan
I'd like to heap some praise upon Brendan Rodgers.
I am an extremely happy Liverpool fan at present, and being Northern Irish it's great to see a Northern Irishman at the helm. I was recently over at the Liverpool-Palace game and upon chatting to fellow fans over the course of the weekend I was quite surprised to find that Brendan is not quite as revered as I had thought.
It seems that there is a section of the support that haven't quite warmed to Rodgers and I wonder why he hasn't quite drawn the adulation that Benitez enjoyed, even pre-Istanbul.
Personally I think he is doing a stellar job and have been really impressed so far. He inherited a squad littered with thoroughly uninspiring players. We were awful to watch, very little pace or creativity from a midfield the likes of Adam, Spearing, Shelvey and Maxi to name but a few and we'd a certain Mr Carroll who liked to trip over himself up top.
Liverpool are now recruiting some exciting, pacey and creative footballers with their best years ahead of them and the signs so far have been encouraging. I think he completely understands the ethos of the club, has brought Liverpool men back into the fold - Fowler, McManaman, King Kenny etc. He is an eloquent, well-mannered man who represents the club fantastically well. His dealing of the Suarez issue over the summer was fantastic and he has managed to create a seemingly harmonious squad of players who are all pulling the same direction.
I fully recognise that he likes to talk but I just wonder what other Liverpool fans think of the man. Did 'Being Liverpool' affect his reputation?
Paddy, County Down
Yes, Arsenal Do Need A Winger
Just wanted to respond to Sam (Arsenal are great) Langley Japan about his mail concerning Arsenal wingers. First of all I agree that Arsenal's biggest fault at the moment is the lack of an orthodox winger.
A lot of people criticise Theo Walcott but having watched Arsenal so far this season it is clear that he is being missed. Whilst so far it hasn't mattered due to the fact that the central midfielder's have done a great job, it is clear that what they need is a player to take on the defenders and actually get crosses into the box. As you said Sam this has led to our full backs doing most of the attacking on the wings.
However, where you are wrong is the fact that you said Sagna is less effective. The game against Dortmund where the lack of wingers was really evident, having said that, the goal came from a cross from the wing from yes you guessed it Sagna and Dortmund's second goal was as much down to Gibbs as it was Sagna as the Englishman was out of position and the initial cross came from the left of the field.
I consider Sagna to be one of Arsenal's best players and he has looked great so far this season and I thought he was man of the match against Crystal Palace on Saturday. Arsenal need their wingers back and hopefully they will soon, but I would like to see Wenger maybe buy another as cover for the large amount of central midfielder's we have. He also needs to educate them in taking on the full back as Gnabry cut inside way too often against Palace to be properly effective.
Baby Come Back
Whisper it quietly, but he's back...
He's only bloody back! haven't been this excited since we signed him!
Ben, CFC (watch as lukaku gets a hattrick against liverpool...jose still knows) London
I will never understand why they award Man Of The Match BEFORE thematch is finished.
Sky announce Aguero, then Torres scores and winsthe game for Chelsea, and Gary Neville says "Can I change my Man of the Match?".