Our sentiments exactly. But it seems some do care. We have lots of mails about Tim Sherwood (he's not popular) as well as HIT IT, TENNIS and other variations...
The MC isn't convinced Joleon Lescott is what Man United need at the moment, but that's one suggestion in the morning mailbox. Plus, plenty of moaning from Spurs fans...
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With Sven all over (partially over?) the news at the moment, any chance you can dig out his quote to Dietmar Hamann from a while back... just for the hell of it?
Go on then. From Hamman's autobiography:
'It was still only 10 in the morning. I looked up and said, 'Boss, what are we celebrating?' expecting him to make the triumphant announcement he was staying.
'He turned to me and smiled that gentle smile of his and took the air of a Buddhist philosopher, as he said, 'Life, Kaiser. We are celebrating life'.
So I just come back from lunch, with my sandwich shop soup. Get into the foyer of my office and there was a big group of people around the security gates. Great, it's gonna take ages to get through and the soup will be cold, they were all busy congratulating each other so I decided to push through.
"Excuse me please mate"
The man turned and smiled as he moved slightly out of the way. As I was on the escalator I it dawned on me who it was... Ronaldo... The Real Ronaldo
Nick the Gooner
'Pathetic Political Posturing'
The simplistic analysis from mediawatch on john Barnes piece is frankly liberal hogwash, somehow made worse by saying 'we are white so we shouldn't disagree with a black person about racism, but we are, please don't call us racist'
I would like to point out to you that Barnes is merely saying that calling someone a name is not racist. Discrimination and denial of opportunity due to skin colour is racist.
What Barnes is saying is that pathetic attempts to ban morons from grounds will not make any difference. As the premier league has shown, the way to get morons out of grounds is to price them out. Due to other leagues not using their fans as cash cows, this will never happen abroad and it is pointless to try and force other people to think what you think, regardless of how retarded you think it is (apologies to anyone disabled)
Liberal thought police are just modern day fascists so why should they use football to promote their political agenda?
It is NOT the role of football to try and fix societies ills, it is the role of society itself, not morons like Sepp blather.
People are generally stupid morons, accept it and move on.
We don't want to hear any more pathetic political posturing from mediawatch or any other self righteous outlet until they genuinely treat everyone the same. Like Germans, fat people, scousers and mediawatchs favourite slur 'batsh*t' mental folk.
Fat man scouser, EFC
More Supportive Mails
My oh my, John Barnes can half kill a baby to catch a child kidnapper. The Mediawatcher got it spot on in his/her analysis of the Barnes article in the Guardian. I don't even know where to begin. As a black football lover who is also passionate about race, I'm more than up for black people in a position of power to speak out against the racial abuse of black people but Barnes is so wide off the mark he needs a dart board the size of the moon.
To basically say Toure and Rose should just shrug off racist abuse because they are well paid is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while. One of the topics that sometimes raises its head in football is depression and how devastating it can be to an individual. Taking Barnes' logic, Gary Speed should have just ignored whatever demons he might have had because he was a successful man with loving fans and family. He should have laughed off his depression and say "hey, at least I'm not homeless". We all know it's never that simple and it's an ignorant way to look at the issue. People like Toure, Rose and Evra have more of a voice than the average black person because of their media coverage and in standing up to racism, they are saying we will not stand for this and the rest of our people feel the same. In essence, these are black men after all. At that moment, these guys are not thinking about the 100k cars they are gonna drive home, they are feeling angry because some idiots are making them feel sub-human. We all know about the powerful message that can be sent to the world when a member of a prejudiced group stand up and fight against the powers that be. It rallies members of that group while also informing outsiders of the group that the prejudice is offensive and not right.
There will be young white children who have Yaya and Rose as players they love and when they see how upset they got when racially abused, these kids will understand how wrong it is and will hopefully never want to take any part in it. Let's be honest, it could be a case where white people who end up being racist have never really been sat down by their parents to make them understand that racism is intolerable. By people in the public eye voicing their frustration at it, these kids can get an indirect education, something Barnes himself says is needed. He makes some good points in terms of ways racism can be tackled. I do believe they are plenty of hypocrites in the media. How is it Stuart Pierce could become England manger after racially abusing Paul Ince? It shouldn't have mattered how long ago it was, and why are people in the media so willing to overlook Suarez's racist element just to swoon over how great a player he is? But Barnes defeats his argument by saying certain black people should just accept it. How is what he's saying different from what Blatter said about just shaking hands if a player is abused? Racism is something that should be tackled on all levels and material possessions should have absolute zilch to do with it. Just look at how offended Kun Aguero, a white player, was when the incident was occurring. He bought attention to it to the referee almost as much as Yaya did. This proves that being offended by something so deeply wrong transcends most things including race itself and money. It is a human thing, a human reaction to a wrong. Perhaps this is an indication of Barnes' love of money over all else. He must think it's important enough to offset being racially abused.
I've always had my doubts about some of the stuff Barnes says about racial issues. As a black man, there is nothing worse than seeing one of the few people in the media of your colour who can be a voice for your people abuse that power. His shrugging of shoulders when the whole Suarez/Evra issue was going on was the tipping point for me. He was very defensive of Dalglish (a manager that gave him a fat contract in his playing days) and dismissive of Evra's point of view. It is important for non-blacks to know that Barnes view is strictly his own and not representative of how most of us view racism. To say Terry and Suarez should not be blamed for having racist attitudes because of the society they have been raised in is like saying don't blame the killer, blame his neighbours for being murderers. I live and was raised in a very rough area of london and definitely sympathise with why the kids around here get up to all sorts but I also believe a person is in charge of his action to a big degree. Terry and Suarez knew exactly what they were doing. They have black team mates and have lived around black people enough to know better. Barnes is such a pr*ck for some of the stuff he put in that article.
Seyi (just had to get that off my chest) LFC.
...I found John Barnes article today in the Guardian very intriguing. Many articles in response the Barnes article are focusing on one point he raised, in which he states that he doesn't care about what happened to Yaya and if he were Toure and Rose he would be embarrassed because they are rich footballers.
I think the point that John Barnes is trying to make is not financially based as argued by the author of today's media watch, but status. What Barnes is saying is that players such as Yaya Toure and Danny Rose have not encountered racism in the context that they are in the position to be role models, make millions of pounds, and be in situation where an African player can be abused in Russia. So having monkey chants aimed towards you pales in comparison to someone not being able to move out of their socioeconomic place because of their skin color.
This does not make the chanting justifiable, and we should praise Yaya for his response. But singular focus by the media on this one issue is not the answer. We need to broaden our microscope and see that these individual incidences are part of a larger problem
John Barnes takes an almost existential view of racism, most likely due to what he went through as a player. While the comments he made in his article were a bit shocking on first read he does make a valid point in which we as a society must educate not only ourselves but our children so in the future "the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes" (bob marley) if we are to truly "kick out racism"
Soap Box Time: If a club is found guilty of racist chants first offense: 30 point deduction in their respected league ensuring that team drops into their second division and immediate expulsion from European play.
Second offense: FIFA enforced ban of International competition (World cup, Euro, etc...) That is how you kick out racism.
Brian (it's 2013 people... lets all please get along)
In Form Szczesny
I've noticed a lot of internet sites and newspapers are lauding the now 'in form' Szczesny; saying that his new contract is just reward for his outstanding recent form. This confuses me greatly as I haven't witnessed any of the said outstanding form.
To me, Szczesny is possibly the worst distributor of the ball (both from hand or off the turf - see Liverpool last Saturday) in the league, incredibly slow off his line and has perfected a bizarre technique that involves him falling on his ar$e and gifting the majority of an open net to the opponent about to strike. I actually find it infuriating - watch his attempted 'saves' in both Chelsea goals. People may point to the odd moment of brilliance, but these are far outweighed by the negatives in my view.
Some would say this is being overly harsh but when you see a top quality keeper like De Gea pulling off a series of point blank saves (e.g. against Stoke) to save his team, you realise that Arsenal's no.1 will generally lose his team more points than he will earn them.
His main skill seems to be saving long range shots but surely this is a basic prerequisite of an international goalkeeper? The fact that he has also been demoted to understudy to Boruc for Poland also backs my claims that he is far from the player people seem to now claim he is. 'Not making any monumental f... ups in the past few games' should not equate to 'is in great form'. Far from it.
Also, let's not forget that he only broke into the first team because of two key facts: 1. He isn't Almunia. 2. He isn't Flappy-anski.
Am I being overly harsh? I'm genuinely interested to see the opinions other readers of this fine site have on Szczesny.
Adding To The Top Ten
I enjoyed the top 10, but I had a "top two" points of my own to add.
1) With regards to Martinez, I think it's fair to say he inherited a very strong, organised back 5 to begin with. Whatever he's been getting them to do WITH the ball, they already knew what to do WITHOUT it. We'll see how good Martinez's defensive nous is when Distin retires (or rides off into the sunset on a giant steed, whatever) and he loses Baines and has to build a new defence, surely?
2) At the risk of sounding patronising to Crystal Palace, isn't it likely that the year in the Premier League (and the associated massive windfall) would be enough for the time being? £60m (or whatever it is) will have put the club on a much more stable footing, allow ground renovation (which is planned already), improve their infrastructure, maybe hang onto some more of their youth players too and come back up in 1-2 more years with a more solid base? That is what *should* have happened at Blackpool, but in fairness to Holloway, it sounds like the Oystons kept most of the cash. Can't really blame him for that!
On Cardiff: "Winning games is nothing compared to your club still having a soul, and it's nice that some still know that."
On Southampton: "It was a crappy way to treat a decent man doing a decent job, but Cortese proved that one should not allow sentiment to cloud logic in football."
Given that the above was a reference to the injection of millions into a club to gain promotion (logic) then shouldn't it seem to be that sentiment should not get in the way (fans wanting the club to retain it's traditions) either?
Personally I think that the degrees of sentiment involved are obviously different but these changes appear to have both been made to increase the success of the club and hence ought to be held up to similar scrutiny. The difference is that one is more commonplace than the other I guess.
Given A Tanning
Thanks for highlighting the issues with the strange little Malaysian egomaniac (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ASPulaMixs ) who is currently running the club I used to be absolutely fanatical about but now....well.....meh.
2 phrases you tend to hear over and over in football is "the most important thing is the fans" and "no individual is bigger than the club".
Phrases that are completely lost in the Malaysian Messiah who has changed our badge and the colour of our kit and said the following about it ""A few were upset but like in any business if we get 80% or 75% of the customers happy, with 20-25% not happy, that's fine. If they don't want to come to support our business, that's fine. We need the majority"".
Funnily enough their seems to be more angst towards Tan now there are rumours of Malky Mackay leaving and the whole moody and that work experience painter and decorator who didn't have a Visa than there was over the kit change decision (pretty much sums up the term 'glory support').
Please continue to publish articles on the way our club and a lot of other clubs such as Hull City are having their souls ripped out of them. This is important to ALL football fans.
Frankly Rich, most football fans don't care too much about a single game of football between 2 mid-lower premier league teams.
Rob (CCFC.......meh) Sadler
I get the point about Ashely Cole and agree that his powers seem to be waning. I disagree that his status as Chelsea's no.1 left-back is under threat though because a) a deteriorated Cole is a hell of a lot better than most left-backs, b) Ryan Bertrand in particular, and c) he still brings his A game to the world's elite.
All of that could change mind but at the moment: disagree
In response to MK.
When did Adams become an idiot?
He's been an idiot, I suspect, all of his life. But if you're talking about regularly proving himself in the media, he's be doing it for ages:
1) Showing excellent foresight and understanding of the club when taking the job at Portsmouth in 2008: "At Wycombe my job was to save the club - they were losing £6,000 a week at the time but this is a different ball game."
2) Or was it in 2009?; announcing that he was in fact the new Celtic manager thanks to their new technical director Wim Jansen, much to everyone's, (probably even his own) surprise.
3) Confidently predicting that FC Gabala of Azerbaijan, 'the Tony Adams club' would become a global footballing dynasty by the time he'd finished his 10 years there. That was 2010.
4) In August, demanding assurances from the Arsenal board before he 'joined as manager' that he would be allowed to build a team, a year after mysteriously being overlooked as assistant manager, even though he'd begged Wenger so publically.
Just a few whoppers I've noticed there as a disinterested Spurs fan, where the common denominator is Tony acting batsh*t.
I'm sure there are few Gooners out there that can run and run with this, but the evidence is mounting up - what if he's unwell and these cries for help are going unheeded?
It's all fun and games until somebody dies, as they say.
On Lukaku And A Booking
I have to react to the mails saying the Lukaku yellow card was ridiculous and incorrect.
"It was an unfortunate footballing accident rather than a deliberate foul."
That is true, I have no doubt Lukaku did not mean to make contact with Lloris but since when does that mean that it wasn't highly dangerous and worthy additional punishment? If it was an ordinary outfield player instead of Lloris, then OK, but goalkeepers have to be protected more. When they go for the ball with their head down, every time they risk concussion or even worse, and the opposition players can not go for the ball with the same verve and (kind of) blindness as when faced with other outfield players.
And that is why Lukaku had to be booked. He totally disregarded the goalkeeper's safety and though he did not deliberately foul him, he should have either put in more effort to avoid the contact or not go for the ball at all.
Jan, Prague (still can't understand why Hunt was not at least booked in the Cech incident)
I am going to apologise in advance for being a miserable pedant, but after being promised a 'cracking mailbox', there were a number of contributions that inexplicably got my goat.
Ben - Underrated players don't get signed for 26 million. Also, I'm sure Shane Long is a little Irish Pele at heart, does him no good when it comes to putting the ball in the net.
Ike (The Myth Buster) - 'the area in front of the goal where statistically you are more likely to score' BOOOOOOM, that's football blown wide open. Who needs tactics?
Aravind - Player's skills diminish with age. Just write that. Saves you half an hour.
Salman - How about we wait until the end of the season before we start making judgements about whether or not Manchester United are having a 'slow start' or spectacular fall from grace? I'm sure all of the non-existent mails where Arsenal fans have been chastised for daring to mention they are title contenders have really upset you, but at least you have the comfort blanket of the millions of pounds you earn as an Arsenal player......What?......You don't play for Arsenal?......I don't understand, why are you saying that "we" bottled past campaigns?
Obafemi Martins definitely scored the winner in the Carling Cup final in 2011 because you went to the toilet in preparation for extra time. You MASSIVE bottler!!
I don't even care if this gets printed. It's been therapeutic.
Jim, Bali (None of them were inexplicable, I explained my issues wonderfully)