That's one thought in an afternoon mailbox that picks at the bones of Arsenal's Champions League exit. There are also views on Mesut Ozil and the Gunners' injury crisis...
There's plenty of...well, not particularly complimentary words about Arjen Robben in the morning Mailbox, but some sensible voices recognise that's not an excuse...
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Do yourself a favour David Moyes, walk out now and I'll forgive you and we all pretend this never happened. I believed you to be the CHOSEN ONE but watching you turn United to a team conceding late goals instead of scoring them, playing without purpose, Making clueless subs and always coming to tell us there were parts of the game we played better, I now am fully convinced you are the MISTAKEN ONE.
I see no brighter future at Man United as long as you remain there simply because there's nothing you're doing to show prove critics wrong. If you had cleared out the likes of Cleverley, Welbeck, Young, Anderson, Smalling and Nani, I would believe you when you say we're in transition but no, you cleared the backroom staff and brought clueless folks like you. You've done more harm than good. Leave now and we will call this a bad dream.
Uche (Gutted United fan)
Just a quick question to the Mailbox, are Manchester United going to become quite likeable and a bit of a second team?
The things we all hate about them are gone or slowly being shed from the club, Fergie dragging technically p*ss poor sides to silverware they had absolutely no right to win, teams going to Old Trafford to draw 0-0 (coupled with the United brand of football this made for the most dull matches I've ever had to endure). Last but probably more importantly they are haemorrhaging the plastic fans who brag in the office every Monday morning after a typical dull 1-0 against Sunderland and yet can't even name more than five United players.
Let's face it, United do it the right way. They aren't some oil rich sugar daddy club, they produce/further English players and maybe when Moyes is gone they might bring in someone who wants to pass it around a bit and entertain the ridiculously large crowds they pack in at OT. I think they're going to be quite likeable and I hope they get a good run in the Europa league now and then.
Luca James Sparks
Does Danny Graham have to get a haircut now?
Paul (Get back to studying Pete), MA
A Mixed Bag
Apologies if this email comes across as incoherent, this is my first attempt at writing into the mailbox so I'm not quite as experienced as the old pros. There's no set theme as such, more a number of questions/points that have come to me:
*Am I the only one astonished that Man U continue to be linked with Wesley Sneijder?!? It just seems to be a thoroughly illogically transfer. The team is definitely lacking in creativity but given the well-publicized difficulties of Shinji Kagawa, trying to shoehorn another playmaker in surely wouldn't work. There's also the underlying tension between him and Van Persie that's quite evident when they play for the Netherlands which leads me to one of two conclusions; Either RVP's injuries are perhaps worse than Moyes is letting on, or he's just desperate for any sort of stellar name to be signed to relieve the pressure.
*Watching Swansea yesterday, I still can't believe that Liverpool let Jonjo Shelvey go so easily. Not that he was particularly outstanding yesterday, but he was positive, moved the ball quite well and always offered an option. I remember him being quite good for Liverpool in 2012 but after a terrible game on Boxing Day against Stoke I think, his form plummeted. Now that Liverpool now have Gerrard and Henderson injured, it seems really short-sighted to sell a promising youngster leave for such a small fee. Given that Liverpool's problem is that their first XI is good but beyond that options are very limited, players with the dynamism of Shelvey who can come into the team and do a job are very valuable. I get that he wanted to leave to get first team football but surely a loan would've sufficed?
*As an Arsenal fan, I find the criticism of Kieran Gibbs' form this season ridiculous. Our defence hasn't looked as good in years and while his final ball isn't exactly Beckhamesque, he's good on the overlap and he's got plenty of time left to prove. That said, he was definitely (partially) at fault for Everton's goal. Rosicky essentially shafted him by not tracking back and leaving him 2 on 1 with Deulofeu and Coleman, but he really should've stuck a foot out to try and block the shot.
*Whisper it quietly, but has there really been a tangible improvement at Chelsea from Rafa Benitez's side to Mourinho's? Chelsea are not doing badly at all this season but the added value that Jose usually brings to his team doesn't quite seem to be present this time round. I think with the strength of the Premier League as it is, Mourinho has never had to face this much competition in his career and I think he's gradually adjusting to it. Chelsea are far from a crisis and once they do eventually get a proper striker (whether that be Lukaku or someone else), they'll have a very strong squad capable of winning the league, but thus far I've felt a little underwhelmed by them.
*Admittedly I can't claim to have watched much of them, but in the past two games that Hull have been on TV recently, I've been incredibly impressed by them. Not just the fact they defend resolutely but they actually played some really good football against Liverpool and Swansea at times. Huddlestone and Livermore from Spurs were real coups and the renaissance of Curtis Davies has shown why he was a must have for any team on earlier editions of Football Manager.
Against Liverpool in particular, you might've been tempted to think it was a plucky underdog getting lucky against a bigger side, but they absolutely played Suarez and co. off the park. The way they got men forward and pressed actually reminded me of Borussia Dortmund! If they carry on as they are and stay up comfortably, perhaps Steve Bruce could be a dark horse for Manager of the Year (any manager who can coax a goal out of Danny Graham is deserving of the highest praise).
Brett (I can't remember a season that ever made ask so many questions), London
So Charlie #moyesin Gooner reckons Martinez does not deserve credit for how Everton are playing when the previous manager left him with two ageing centre halves and no strikers but he found ways round that? What you are saying is that this new manager has two centre backs coming to the end of their careers, an ageing midfield and two strikers who won't be around longer but the club is at least challenging for the top four during this transitional period.
So, replace the new manager for the old at his new club (if you follow) and you have two centre backs coming to the end of their careers (Vidic and Ferdinand), an ageing midfield (Carrick and Giggs) and two strikers who won't be around much longer (Van Pooney) and yet Moyes has taken the Champions to mid table fodder.
Still think Martinez isn't a 'genius' for maintaining the consistency? Oh, and how about you wait to see how he answers these questions before you write him off!
...So much pessimism around at the moment, regarding everything to be enjoyed, such as Everton being superb. "Lukaku, Deolofeu and Barry won't be there next year, FART". I keep hearing this. So. Who cares. It is THIS SEASON. NEXT SEASON you can talk about the season after all you want, but fupping hell you baxters just enjoy the football for once.
Dave (Football fan), Dublin
So Paul Chipperton, Toronto has fallen in to the old "I'm a better fan than you because..." trap! His insinuation that anyone who doesn't understand his reference to Kevin Richardson is [quote] "not really a Gooner" is so sweepingly ridiculous that it is probably insulting to many Gooners who are in fact a much truer fan than he is!
For the record Mr Chipperton, 1989 was almost 25 years ago now and whilst at 46 the 26h May will long live in MY memory (no, I didn't need to look the date up), the unsung heroes of that time may not be so significant to a passionate kid born in this millennium or are you saying they need to have studied and memorised history books or VHS videos to qualify as a true Gooner?
In fact Paul's statement was so ridiculous that it led me to thinking what other equally banal (and patently untrue) "I'm a better fan than you because..." statements could be made. To start here's one just for Paul..."You come from/live in Toronto so you're not really a Gooner are you?" or "You didn't refuse to get married on a match day so you're not really a Gooner are you"? or even "You don't have a cannon tattooed on your arse so you're not really a Gooner are you?" I'm sure if the mailbox is quiet the contributors could come up with some even more crass ones than me!
Chris (loved my club for 40 years but don't claim to be better than anyone else) Charteris
There has been a lot of talk about Moyes recently with those defending him coming out and saying give him time and it's a transitional year. Whenever I think of transitional years I immediately think of Hodgson at Liverpool and Villas Boas at Chelsea. They weren't given the time they were promised and everyone defending them said it's a transitional year and they should get that time, they were supposed to come in with a long term vision and should be given time to implement it.
My question is has there ever been a manager who has taken over from a successful club had a bad first year / transitional year and gone on to be successful again after which would prove this does work? Maybe they just don't get the time or perhaps success in football is just too short term so no one gets the time to do their job after that year, but then why employ managers with the idea of a transitional year? Can Man Utd really afford to have a transitional year and is it worth the risk, I mean how do you know the difference between a transitional year and the start of a decline?
So many questions, it just doesn't make sense to me as an excuse.
...I have to strongly disagree with Adam (Enjoy the struggle while it lasts because it won't last very long) about Moyes needing to be left alone.
Everyone agrees that Man U are a club with huge expectations and that following Fergie is a very tall order but Moyes will have been well-aware of this when he took the job... no-one put a gun to his head!
Even if Man U were outside the top 4 but still getting a few decent results here or there then I don't think "the media" would be on his back so much but as there doesn't seem to be any improvement in the last few weeks I think the vitriol is completely deserved!
I don't however think that Moyes should get the sack... he just needs to get used to the pressure. If he were to go then it would only serve to make journalists look elsewhere for someone else to focus their attacks against!
André, THFC, Enfield.
Nick Miller's article on managers who were successful in following greats had one interesting omission. For all the talk about the impossible task of replacing "English football's greatest Manager TM" there's already the perfect example of how it should be done...
You can add to all his obvious achievements (only English team to dominate Europe, massive tactical innovation) that Bob Paisley also left Liverpool at the right time and in the right hands for his success to continue. He didn't hang on to squeeze another title or two for his own glory while letting the team run itself down, then hand over to someone he knew couldn't succeed, so people would say how great he was as no one could follow him. He stepped down while still at his peak and handed over to Joe Fagan who, in his first season, won the league, European cup and league cup.
Not sure why Fagan didn't make your list?
Sounds Like A Plan
According to Aravind, CFC, Chennai's genius tactical analysis, Chelsea's special new system requires a particular type of striker.
What is that type of striker, I hear you ask?
It's ok, Aravind has explained. He says that "the system needs hard-working strikers who are also technically brilliant players with good finishing prowess."
Or, as i prefer to call them "good strikers".
I - meanwhile - am off to design a system which requires lazy strikers who are technically mediocre with poor finishing prowess.
I will then get myself appointed as the agent for Nicklas Bendtner, and this time next year we'll both be millionaires.
Although, possibly, Tony Pulis has beaten me to this plan, but decided to use Chamakh instead of Bendtner. Cunning bastard.