Surely A Spurs Fan Should Remember...

...what happened to the fourth Champions League place the last time an English team won the thing. Plus, who would want to pay £60 to watch the current England team?

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Cocky Liverpool
I knew it. As soon as the draw was made for the Champions League group stage, I knew someone would write in and talk about Liverpool being given an easy ride. Fair enough, Liverpool is the second strongest team on paper in the group. But to talk about Basel as a "no-mark", as Tom G did, betrays a complete lack of knowledge and/or respect. I give you the following:

2002 - knocks Liverpool out of the group (Champions League)
2011 - knocks Man Utd out of the group (Champions League)
2013 - knocks Spurs out at quarter final stage (Europa League)
2013 - beats Chelsea at Stamford Bridge (Champions League)

Not to mention beating teams like Roma, Bayern Munich, Sporting Lisbon, Zenit St Petersburg and Valencia in the last four years (all teams that would presumably give Brendan and the boys some competition). Admittedly, there were some nasty defeats away from home along the way, but this is some track record for a "no-mark".

Anyway, rant over. Off to milk some cows now and dream of football played in a proper country.
Andy, Switzerland


...It was strange to read Tom's piece about his disappointment at Liverpool' draw and that there was "only 2 games to get excited about". I'm hoping its a tongue in cheek piece otherwise it's misguided and disrespectful to Basel and Ludogorets.

Firstly, All European nights are special at Anfield, not just when we are playing the "proper teams". Whether its Olympiakos 2005, or thumping Besiktas 8-0 in 07-08, the fans, the atmosphere and the players make Anfield what it is.

Secondly, to say Basel and Ludogorets games will not be entertaining is very wrong. Basel have caused trouble for both Chelsea and Man Utd in recent years including a 3-3 at Old Trafford and Ludogorets are a surprise package who qualified on penalties with a defender in goal.

As a Liverpool fan, I do expect Liverpool to progress, but will not be selling our opponents short.
I hope other fans will do the same.
Pete C


...If one more fellow Liverpool fan writes off Basel and Lodogorets as non-games and walkovers in our Champs League group I am going to explode. I recall our last (and only) two ventures against Basel ending up without victories. Let's not set ourselves up for a fall, boys.
Jay, LFC


...If ever anyone needed reminding why most people hate Liverpool fans then Tom G's email should do it. A little bit of success and they're back out of the woodwork. A complete lack of respect for any team who doesn't sell 50m shirts in Asia and the arrogance and sense of entitlement that we've come to expect from his kind.

For the record those "no marks" Basel have been in the CL more than Liverpool in recent years and beat Chelsea home and away last season. I'd show them a little more respect if I were you.

God I hope they beat you.
DM, WBA


But It Shouldn't Be Tough
How on Earth does Mark (going to enjoy this as we might not be back next year) LFC think that Liverpool have got a tough group?

Basel and Ludogrets were both easily the worst teams in their respective pots. I'm not a Liverpool fan, so don't really care if they go through or not. But surely it would be seen as a massive disappointment for Liverpool if they were not to progress through the group
Dylan Clarke


Don't You Remember?
David, as a Spurs fan you should know how qualification to the Champions League works. If Arsenal finish 6th and win the Champions League, then a spot is taken away from the 4th placed team. You've done well to suppress those Chelsea/Redknapp memories.
Brian, Washington, DC (Can we auction off Glen?)


...To the Spurs fan with the question about the possibility of six English teams in the champions league - the answer is no.

Quite frankly, I'm surprised you'd forgotten about the year Chelsea nicked your champions league place by winning the thing.
Graham Simons, Gooner, Norf London


Ginger Pirlo
Given that it's my last day in my current job and probably won't have the luxury of spending time on here whilst feigning work anymore, I felt obliged to send in one last mail.

Thankfully, Jack (Ironically), Sunderland provided me with a gift. For starters, it's still funny how hysterically the darksiders reacted to Colback wanting to move, even more so when our writer promises not to sound bitter...about a player who was/is apparently "okay" and "average" (if this is the case, why would you care if he left?).

To his credit, Jack makes a reasonable point and I find myself grudgingly agreeing with his sentiment until...

"Meanwhile Lee Cattermole (A far more effective CM for our team) is still underrated and gets nowhere near the team."

I'm still weeping with laughter some ten minutes later.

Thanks Jack, you've made an already enjoyable day that bit more special!

Oh, and the word you were looking for was 'Jack (coincidentally), Sunderland'. This is as close to irony as most Sunderland fans are to sanity.
Alex Swift, Yorkshire Mag


What Leeds Could Have Been
Seeing that there are 3 products of Leeds United academy in the latest England Squad in Rose, Delph and Milner, it got me to wondering what could have been had Leeds not imploded. I've tried to come up with a team of players who have played/still are playing for Leeds and are still playing and for me Clive, despite a few old legs, I think that they could still finish mid-table in the Premiership. Are there any other teams outside the Premiership who have let as much talent go and are left to wonder what glories could have awaited them?

GK: Scott Carson

RB: Sam Byram
CB: Rio Ferdinand
CB: Jonathan Woodgate
LB: Danny Rose

RM: Aaron Lennon
CM: James Milner
CM: Fabian Delph
LM: Robert Snodgrass

ST: Robbie Keane
ST: Ross McCormack
Conor, London


England Tickets
So here I am on a lazy Friday morning at work, slowly reading through your wonderful site, when I read that the England vs Norway game is going to be one of the lowest attended game in the new Wembley history. I thought to myself, I havent been to the new Wembley yet, I'm free Friday, why not organise a few mates to go watch?

Tickets would be cheap right? Well, no. £60. £60 to go and watch an England friendly with one of the least inspiring squads in my 26 years of watching football. If the FA want people to support England and to go along why dont they make it cheaper! I already know that its going to be a horrid match of football watching the 'ginger pirlo' pinging the ball to Fat Wayne who'll spoon it over from 40 yards because he thinks he can play in midfield. What a load of crap. It's a friendly, I wont even get to see some of the better players for longer than one half, so why not make the tickets £20 each or even cheaper? Get people actually involved and then we might be able to drum (please no England band) up more support when it does actually matter?!
Stefan (p*ssed off patriot) Daniels


Heelarious Consequences
RE Niall, Denver's idea of borrrowing from Gridiron and appointing a 'defensive co-ordinator' - it's been done. In the mid-90s, Keegan drafted in [see what I did there?] his old pal Lawro as the Toon's 'defensive coach'.

WITH HILARIOUS CONSEQUENCES.
Alex Stokoe, Newcastle upon Tyne

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