Jordan Henderson is a ‘slithery hypocrite’ and Liverpool will challenge without him
Jordan Henderson dominates a Mailbox that also takes in Liverpool, Manchester United and of course Kai Havertz. But mostly Henderson.
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Defending Henderson
If I go to the USA for a holiday, it doesn’t mean I am against abortion. It’s just that the USA is a really good place for a holiday. It’s quite possible for me to be absolutely aghast at the decision taken to ban abortion and yet still enjoy a fortnight in Florida.
If I go to Harrods and buy myself some nice jewellery, it doesn’t mean I am anti-Royal. It’s just that Harrods is a really good place for some nice jewellery. It’s quite possible for me to query the real circumstances behind the death of Lady Diana and still want to get a nice bracelet from Cartier.
If I buy an Apple phone, or Nike trainers, it doesn’t mean I am pro-Chinese execrable working conditions. It just means I want an iPhone or a pair of Dunks. It’s perfectly possible for me to want a nice pair of Dunks and yet be against the conditions that they are produced.
If I buy Russian vodka, I’m not anti-Ukraine or pro-War. I’m not celebrating the unjust invasion of the Crimea. I just want a nice vodka.
You get my point.
What F365’s issue seems to be is that you have positioned Jordan Henderson as someone who must, by decree, be THE person to loudly, brightly and vociferously protest for fair representation for ALL people in Saudi Arabia whilst he plays football there.
Why should he? I mean, I’m not saying he shouldn’t but what I’m asking is why he definitely should? Why should it be him and him alone? Rainbow Laces is a Premier League initiative which almost all players took up the mantle. Where’s the same article on Ruben Neves, N’Golo Kante, or Riyad Mahrez? In February 2023 Neymar pledged his full and unequivocal support for Jakub Jankto who came out as gay. Where’s the scathing article on Neymar?
I don’t see Dave Tickner boarding a plane, flying to Saudi, and getting his rainbow-coloured microphone out, and making a passionate case for LGBTQ+ in the middle of Dharan. I do see him nominating Jordan Henderson to do something similar.
I get it F365, I get that there is a level of hypocrisy with what Jordan Henderson has said in the past and what career decision he’s made since then. In an era where the Liverpool and oft England captain has publicly and repeatedly voiced his support for a community of people, it must gnaw when he goes to a place like Saudi for a whopping great paycheck. I get it.
What I don’t get is F365, and all the other super critical people, protesting vicariously through Jordan Henderson, as if only he can make a change in Saudi Arabia. If you are so passionate about all of this, then go to Saudi Arabia and pick up the baton where Jordan Henderson has so clearly dropped it.
Dale May, Swindon Wengerite
No, he’s a slithery hypocrite
He keeps saying he gets it, but he truly doesn’t. If you support the rights of marginalized people only so long as it doesn’t cost you anything, you don’t really support them. As a Liverpool fan, I was vociferous in my support of Jordan in his early days at the club, when everyone said we’d signed a player with the skill level of a donkey and the running style of a monkey. It cost me the respect of some fellow fans, but years later I can live with my decision. He was a wonderful player for the club. I thought he was more than that, a truly great leader and a man of unimpeachable integrity and courage. But no, he was just a wonderful player. And now as his on-field powers fade, he’ll just be a slithery hypocrite.
Rob, LFC, NYC
…My word – what a misstep from Jordan Henderson. The interview with the Athletic was a disaster in my opinion.
It had all the hits – I didn’t feel wanted, its not about the money but sort of is, ‘growing the league’ nonsense, some offers for help to the LGBTQ community where he can and the worst apology offered (if it wasn’t genuine, don’t apologise). He should have been honest and said he went for the cash; it couldn’t have gone any worse saying that.
The worst thing is, he didn’t need to do an interview at all. Ignore the haters, take your cash and enjoy it with your family.
Reminds me of The Thick Of It when Malcolm Tucker attacks the BBC and sends Nicola Murray out to face the press when the news thinks she wants to run for PM. A massive overreaction which made the situation worse
As a side note, Malcolm Tucker as a manager, that would be fun.
Tom
…Just in case people misunderstood my mails from a couple of weeks ago, I would like to say that Henderson is a knob, and Southgate has a very important and simple decision to make. Pro or anti middle east super league?
Zdravko
Did Liverpool see the clampdown coming?
Not my main takeaway from that interview obviously, but I can understand why Jordan Henderson, Liverpool captain, would be upset that Liverpool didn’t really make much of an effort to keep him at the club instead when Steven Gerrard came asking about his availability. Not really sure if £12m for a 33 year old midfielder who won’t start every week is another example of Liverpool transfer wizardry, or the football equivalent of “well how much have you got on you”.
If I were cynical I’d suggest that someone at Liverpool spotted that niggly fouls and arguing with referees were going to be the subject of a clampdown, and decided to make Henderson someone else’s problem. But I’m not, so I won’t.
Ed Quoththeraven
Is it time to talk about Liverpool yet?
Given the wknd fixtures gone by, obviously the main talking points in the following days were gona be about United. And hey, I think they’re just as awful as everyone else does – but can we touch on how Liverpool have quietly went about a very good start to the season while having a reasonably tough 4 fixtures? Also pushing the unbeaten league streak to 15 games now?
4 points away to Chelsea and Newcastle will not be beaten by many teams this season, apart from maybe Forrest and City. And home to Villa, especially considering how easy Liverpool made it look, is these days a pretty good result….which really speaks to how strong the top half of the league is now.
We all know the fall off in Liverpool’s form last season, but that was mainly injuries – here are the minutes played last season by the worst effected players in what is considered the first 11 or at least first sub:
Konate – 1,551
Thiago – 1,252
Luis Diaz – 991
Diogo Jota – 1,125
Roberto Firmino – 1,211
Jordan Henderson – 2,072
There are 3,480 mins in the season not including injury time so we’re talking about half of Liverpool’s best 11 missing more than half, and usually more than 2/3, of the entire year. And all we heard last year was – did Klopp lose his touch.
The 15 game unbeaten run has come during a period of far fewer injuries, its not a coincidence. Add to this the very strong revamp of the midfield and Pool are directly installed as the 2nd best team in the league again IMO. Arsenal? The only team Liverpool demolish more frequently than Utd are the Gunners. The 2-2 at Anfield last year came near the start of this current run in fact, and Liverpool should have eviscerated them after very deservedly going 2 nil down. It was men against boys in the second half, like it had been for half a decade prior.
Christ it’s easy to go off on a tangent…. Back to square 1 here – Liverpool have been down to 10 men for a decent % of the season already and they’re 3 goals to nil in that time, they’ve been away to 2 top four contenders (Chelsea will be thereabouts come the end), they comfortably dispatched a Villa team that are second in the league since last xmas (which is a sample of about 25 games) and they’ve averaged 2.5 points a game in this time. This all with a brand new midfield that will only get better.
Stick this mail in the diary to look up again at the end of the season F365 folks – it will be Liverpool and City top 2 again this year….and by quite a distance.
Patricio Del Toro
Who are the best multipliers?
We often hear about water-carriers and piano-carriers on football pitches, but some players do more than just relieve their more talented colleagues of their dirty work. The best and rarest players manage to consistently bring the best out of their teammates, and help elevate them to greater individual levels. Whether that is knowing and consistently playing the types of balls that their teammates prefer, knowing when to back them up in a press, or just knowing where to stand to allow everyone else to best do their thing.
I call these players Multipliers, because they make everyone around them exponentially better. They are sometimes difficult to spot, specifically because of just how good they make everyone else look. This often leads to their teammates earning big-money moves, and leads to pundits referring to their club as being a “Conveyor Belt of Talent,” when teams would have been better off signing their Multiplier teammate instead.
I started thinking about this last season, when Moises Caicedo was given an eye watering valuation. He is a great player, who had taken the place of Yves Bissouma, another central midfielder who had left Brighton for big money. Relatedly, before Chelsea could seal Caicedo’s transfer this summer, they signed Enzo Fernandez for a staggering sum in January. Now, these are all wonderful footballers (particularly Enzo) who would seemingly improve any team. They also all had the pleasure of playing alongside Alexis Mac Allister when they got their big moves.
He is incredibly selfless, yet also possesses remarkable skill and technique. More than that, he just seems to be one of the most tactically astute and flexible players around, and he seems to know exactly what the team needs from him at any given time. Surely it is a coincidence that Dominik Szoboszlai is now earning rave reviews for his performances too…
Can the mailbox come up with some other multipliers that have graced the game with their exquisite alchemical properties over the years?
Dan, CNY
Debunking Man City myths
I am feeling charitable today, so I thought I’d write in and debunk some of these MCFC transfer myths/conspiracy theories floating around the mailbox recently.
Citeh are an extremely well run club who employ a tried and tested strategy when buying players. This isn’t an exclusive list for obvious reasons but after a few seasons you start to appreciate the trends.
1) They do not get into bidding wars with other clubs for players (eg Maguire, VVD, Jorginho, Fred…. the list is endless). It goes without saying that bidding wars inflate fees e.g. Caicedo.
2) They like dealing with clubs when they know the player only wants to come to Citeh e.g. Matheus Nunes. Admittedly this is getting easier. This guy only wanted to come to city and went on strike. Wolves had to sell and the deal was made very sweet for them as they got Tommy Doyle at a £5m snip. They tried it with Declan Rice but he also wanted to play for Arsenal so they dropped out because of point 1 (see above).
3) They are very very patient if the deals are not right and their estimations do not meet the expectations of the vendor. We haven’t had a left back for years. Pep made use of the squad and stuck a centre back in.
4) They have a decent shopping list. Ruben Dias, arguably the best centre back in the league, was our third choice centre defender that year (see point 1 above).
5) They love release clauses. This makes negotiations very easy, particular if point 2 (see above) is in place eg Haarland and Grealish.
6) With regularity they choose players that they have played against and impressed them in the Champions League eg B Silva and Nunes when he was at Sporting. This also makes point 2 easier (see above).
7) They have exceptional coaches that make players better.
8) They buy players for specific skills to fit into the team. This year it’s ball carriers. Brighton do this, which explains why when Brighton players go elsewhere they are more often than not, not very good because they have to fit into a different system e.g. Cucurella
9) They compete in all trophies that allow new players to get more game time and up to speed on tactics and formation. This coupled with a small squad ensures players get game time.
10) They rarely panic buy and almost never buy in the January transfer window when prices are higher.
11) They roll the red carpet out. The facilities are top notch, as are the medical staff. This was a big factor for Haaland coming to the club, who was regularly injured at Dortmund. He has his own Physio (24/7) that cracks his back before he gets out of bed. They also have support staff who basically wipe the players backsides so all they have to do is focus on football.
Right, back to paid work.
Rosie Poppins
…The ‘charges’ that are laid at City’s door are currently being fought over legally, hence there’s no news, no updates. There’s nothing sinister in that and if you were able to hold onto past conversations, it’s reckoned that the case may well take several years to come to conclusion. That’s because City have the right to defend themselves against each and every charge. The pair of you must be familiar with this, The Case For The Defence, being a ‘thing’ even in our TikTok times. I’d suggest you keep your teenage musings to yourselves until we know the actual score. I mean, I KNOW you’re dying for City to be found guilty, most opposition fans are, irrespective of whether we actually did it or not. “Not Guilty”? Nah, bollocks, we’re not having that, even if they’ve been found innocent, ban ‘em anyway because that’s the only way we can catch City up.
I’m just saying let’s wait until the outcome before we comment, even if there are lots of enjoyable conspiracy theories that really should be spouted, of course.
Now, our transfer policy and I quote “Firstly they sign incredible players that no other club wants, and then they sign these incredible players for extremely fair prices. Jack Grealish is probably the big outlier here, but for the rest of them, go check it out. No other clubs seem to be in for the players they want. It’s weird.” Yes, Dale, you said that. As a fan of the Arse , I presume you are able to remember that we did go in for Declan Rice in the summer and I’m sure some other club was in for him too…can’t quite remember who that might be… never mind, it’ll come to me…..
You know, maybe we’re just bloody good at this transfer business. Have you ever considered that? Ultra professional, uninterested in bidding wars and excellent at spotting the players that we want. It helps that the players we go for usually want to come to us and that was what scuppered Reims when they tried to get an auction going for Jeremie Doku with both Liverpool and Chelsea. Turned out, the player really wanted to come to us. So, perhaps, what the problem really is that….we have professionals running the club, you have amateurs running yours. You have the problem, we don’t.
Pissing on chips again,
Levenshulme Blue, Manchester 19
Ten Hag out? That is ludicrous talk
Good morning to all readers. I’ve been visiting this website for quite some time but this is the first time I am sharing some of my thoughts with the rest of you. The “assist” was provided by Ryan, Bermuda who wrote a beautiful (in my opinion) piece about how difficult it has become to be the Man Utd manager nowadays. I really appreciated the thoughts he shared, and to be frank i’ve been wondering myself whether i’m the only one having second (third, fourth) thoughts about all this criticism received by our manager during the last year and a half he’s been around.
Now, don’t get me wrong, I obviously don’t think we’re some sort of world beaters and the world is just hating on us, but for the love of God, what was everyone expecting from us?? Ten Hag has inherited probably the worst Man Utd squad of the Premier League era, a team that scored 57 goals (the fewest of anyone in the top 8) and conceded 57 goals (the second most of anyone in the top 10), with an obvious, pathetic 0 goals difference, i don’t even know when was the last time that this happened.
Yet, he immediately set the standards for what should be expected of a club of our size, and after two admittedly terrible performances in his first two official games in charge of our club, he steadied the ship and managed to get us in the top 3 and win our first trophy in the last 6 years. Let’s don’t forget all the adversities he had to face, like the CR interview, the injuries, the unstoppable and unforgiving schedule which made us play the most games in Europe with such a thin squad, and of course all of that on top of managing what is admittedly the worst run top club in England if not even further.
I may be biased but I don’t remember any other team losing their best player in the middle of the season under those circumstances and still managing to achieve the goals set pre season (many teams come to mind as examples here, by the way). The injuries are definitely part of our favorite sport too, but when you are a new manager, in charge for a few months, with a squad that doesn’t suit your style and you only get a handful of players which are your choice, then those said injuries are almost definitely having a bigger toll on you than they would have for a settled squad, with a manager that has been around for a while and got players in that suit his tactics (Arsenal was still using the injuries excuse last year, in the third year of Arteta, when the loss of a center back supposedly derailed their title challenge).
I also remember Klopp blaming the busy schedule for last year’s demise, or even Guardiola who always says stuff like that despite being able to buy anyone or even replace him after mistakenly buying him in the first place (Claudio Bravo etc).
So, all of those factors, in my mind ought to provide Ten Hag lots of credit in the bank, and afford him time to at least get closer to fulfilling his vision of this club in terms of squad and playing style, which means that any “Ten Hag out” comments are at least laughable because if we go on that train, then we also need to be able to point to someone who would possibly do a better job, and i don’t think there’s anyone at this moment in time that could.
After a hectic summer, with lots of difficulties, when our manager clearly had ideas about what he needs, and one way or another he managed to get most of that, should we win the title and UCL double to be considered successful? That is definitely what the media will have you think lately, because we dared to start slowly on the first game of the season, with the new arrivals given a trial, with the slow start of last year also being an indicator maybe that things WILL get better, and we still managed to beat Wolves by the way, which you wouldn’t be able to guess if you only read the pieces online.
We dared to lose to Spurs, which have started brilliantly under Postecoglou, but we could have won that game on another day. Why should this be a criticism of Ten Hag and not praise to Ange by the way? We dared concede two goals to Nottingham Forest, only to come back and win that game, the same Nottingham that beat Chelsea in their backyard (you know which Chelsea right? $$$) and gave Arsenal such a hard time before eventually losing (yes, the title challengers Arsenal). Last, we dared lose to Arsenal after we almost won that game on the 89th minute with a goal that was disallowed for a matter of a hair’s width, yes the title challengers Arsenal who on another day loses this game to this “pathetic” Man Utd according to the media.
What would they write if the goal stood?
Why is nobody criticizing Poch or Chelsea? And do I even need to say why they should be criticized?
Why is nobody criticizing Arteta? It’s his fourth year of Arteta, they spent the most money this summer, except for the usual suspects, but we should trust the process according to him.
Why is nobody criticizing Klopp? They fell off a cliff last season for no apparent reason, but you know, their players “got old”, never mind the same bunch having challenged for the quadruple a matter of months before that. And then this season we’re all acting like they invented the wheel because they invert their -incapable to defend- full back in order to leave him less exposed among other reasons.
To summarize, i know we are not winning the league or the UCL this year, i know Ten Hag is not perfect and he has his flaws too. I also know there are better teams than us in England, and teams further ahead in their process which means they’re better equipped than us at the moment. But damn, give Ten Hag some time and support to show us all what he is capable of before we judge him fully, or before we rush to shout “Ten Hag out”, for i don’t remember anyone after SAF actually knowing what they are doing or running this club with any sort of discipline (JM vs Pogba toxicity aside).
If Ten Hag ever makes it to year 4 like “Mr trust the process” then we can all discuss how this process has turned out. But before that, we can’t expect a manager to walk in and play City -who’s been building up to this moment for 10 years- out of the park. We can’t expect him to kick Klopp’s Liverpool (also many years in the making) down to 5th every year. Even Arsenal are now buying players for 100M. So, yeah, we are not playing by ourselves, other people are playing too, and guess what, they are also making careful decisions trying to be successful as well.
I apologize for the rant, but I sincerely feel we need a level playing field when it comes to judging situations like this. In a parallel universe we have 4 wins out of 4 and the media is already polishing the trophy for us, so please let’s not make this all a coin toss but instead when we want to praise or criticize, let’s make it with some validity, no arguments which could be baseless for the matter of a hair’s width!!
Alex MUFC Greece. (Utd in the good times, UTD in the bad times)
Deja vu for Man Utd?
The first thing I would like to point out is that if any United fan felt like Sunday’s match was unfair, that it was justice if anything. The first goal in which United was conceded was a complete lack of concentration, and I would say the second goal is actually worse. If you watch the Rice goal again, I genuinely have no idea what Dalot & Maguire are doing. You see an Arsenal player about to take a shot within the box (After letting him control it) and don’t close him down within that 2-3 second gap.
Without Varane, no one is actually capable of organising that defence, and as a fan that scares me given, he only plays in half of the games within the season (25-30 games at best). When the Rice goal went in though, I wasn’t upset or angry, it was like I expected it, therefore not reacting to it. United have now picked up 1 point from a possible 30 points in there last 10 away games against last year’s Top 8. No matter how you look at it, Ten Haag needs to either change his approach in these games, or make sure his players are able to play his style away from home, with no fear or anxiety.
Starting to think that Martinez & Antony got purchased, simply because Ten Haag knows and trusts them, but are they good enough? Time will tell, still both young, but it suggests Ten Haag brought them in to take his side when shit hit the fan, but also suggests Ten Haag didn’t trust many players to begin with when even starting the job.
For anyone saying Ten Haag should get sacked is a complete moron, he did more than enough last year and yes some defeats were really bad in which he needs to work on so it doesn’t happen again this season, but we have seen this situation happen at United before with both Van Gaal & Mourinho. The players stopped playing for Van Gaal midway through his second season, and the players pretty much gave up on Mourinho as soon as the third season begun. Although, Mourinho knew what he was doing, I think he wanted to get sacked and couldn’t be f**ked working with such an incompetent board and only probably spoke to the owners twice max.
I think what Ash Metcalfe mentioned in his last article about the Glazers is definitely something United fans needs to be smarter with going forward. Maybe next season, or even this season, fans should refund their season tickets or just not show up to the games. As soon as the Glazers see United aren’t making as much as revenue as before, they may actually want to sell the club. I now no why the United fans were outraged by the purchase, but even at his point the Glazers are making Mike Ashley (Previous Newcastle owner) look like a saint.
As for the positives from the Arsenal game, Hojlund looked more lively and threatening in 20 mins as Martial has been in the last two years. I really hope Martial only plays if there is literally no other option. But as for Hojlund, I hope the team helps him out and gets him into dangerous positions. The second half wasn’t actually too bad at the Emirates for United, however you could see there was a hesitancy to go forward, or a lack of options for it really, and unfortunately it lead to second away defeat of the season in just as many games played.
Oh, and the Sancho news is something I reckon has been completely overexaggerated by the media. If Sancho is actually upset by what Ten Haag has said (It wasn’t even that bad…) I think he needs to get over himself quickly and look past his pride a bit. Yes you can argue that Antony shouldn’t be starting and Sancho should be given a chance, but I guarantee you that Antony is a much fitter player than Sancho. Sancho started the FA Cup last year, and was honestly one of the worst players on the pitch.
Slowed down moves, and he did show glimpses last year, but didn’t he get 3 months off when no one else did last year? I think he sealed his fate with those comments about Ten Haag, and I hope Ten Haag sells him in January, don’t need attention seeking troublemakers like Pogba in the team. Don’t get me wrong, I think Sancho has been immensely mismanaged since arriving to the club (Has had 4 different managers so far), but he now has a manager that backed him last year and I think he needs to understand he isn’t being played because United currently have better performing wingers in the team (Although Rashford seem to be the only one capable of scoring 10+ goals, maybe Garnacho, but Antony & Sancho are way off the pace).
I think United this season, will still get Top 4, I think Ten Haag knows United are good enough for this. However, I don’t think Ten Haag can actually build a team that can challenge for the title, I just think his best shot is concentrating on United becoming a dangerously good cup team in the next 2 years, and see what happens from there.
Its early days into the season, but as a United fan, you can see some players are just not 100% focussed on the pitch, there is a big cloud hanging over United, and uncertainty over the summer regarding ownership has definitely had an effect, but this is where Ten Haag needs to make sure his team are ready and is ultimately his responsibility, but he needs players like Varane, Casemiro, Rashford & Fernandes to be showing up 9 times out of 10 due to the lack of quality in the side.
Rami, Manchester (Evans back at United better than the Ronaldo re-signing lol)
The enigma that is buying from Dortmund
The transfer window always creates a lot of buzz as ‘journalists’ trot out ever-hyped articles linking the top clubs with almost every player available and, frankly, unavailable to get hits and eyeballs. Then we get the articles and letters purporting that team A ‘won’ the window or did better than team B.
You can buy really expensive players and hope they can work out what the team needs and hit the ground running – as with Bellingham – or they are not a fit for the team and the manager’s strategy, as in Sancho.
Looking at Sancho’s demise it did make me wonder how players can be so great at one club – in this case, Borussia Dortmund – yet most fare dramatically differently elsewhere.
Over the last 10 years, they have sold Dembele, Bellingham, Sancho, Pulisic, Gotzke, Aubameyang, Haaland, Mkhitaryan, Gundogan, Isak, etc. When it comes to those who were as successful, very few have done well. Gundogan and Haaland would be the exceptions. Several did okay, but not the heights of their Borussia days whole so many have not done very well at all.
I am not sure what is the reason behind it. I suspect it has a lot to do with players being picked on stats alone or to suit a system of a manager who is then replaced by one who plays another system. Clearly, Borussia brings them in young to fit their style or be young enough (and cheap enough – as in less pressure) to give them time to be moulded to their style. I read several articles saying Szoboszlai was not going to fit in at Liverpool or struggle, yet he has been their most consistent performer since the season started.
After watching Bellingham dominate the first few Real Madrid games while reading the ongoing saga of Sancho, mental fortitude plays a key role. Many of these guys are young and moved from club to club, country to country; not everyone would be cut out for that.
Wondering who the next wad of cash teams will be sending Borussia’s way on – Moukoko, Kamara, Adeyami or Bynoe_Gittens? And whether they will be capable of surviving?
Paul McDevitt
Let’s see how Spurs cope with pressure…
3 words for Spurs fan TG Wolf: “New manager bounce”.
Let’s see how Spurs respond when things get tough, because historically, it’s always well right? 😉
Calvino (Only Pep had more points in his first 40 games than ETH in the PL- grow up)
Havertz has been just fine
When Arsenal were linked with Kai Havertz I thought it was a bad joke – the fact we then paid £65m for him raised my eyebrows, to say the least. But, as a fan you give players time, hope they succeed and wish for the best. At the very least I thought he was a good option for a plan B, an option that Arsenal did not have last season and someone who could give us a different dimension when the need arose.
Now, having seen him play 5 games (including the Community Shield), I want to point out that he has generally been fine. I would say he has done about 80% good, and the 20% bad has been shared and shared and shared like a stick to beat him with. Defensively he has been solid, winning more duels than anyone else in the team, he tends to hold the ball up well and his movement is very good.
I feel that everything is going against him at the moment – the price tag, his luck, the majority of his own fans, the time he is taking to get used to the system he is playing in – and he is probably under the microscope more than any other player in the league right now. I also feel that if he had come straight to us from Germany people would be seeing the strengths in his game more, but his Chelsea years have certainly increased scrutiny, obviously.
It is not blind faith to believe that he will come good – the ingredients are there and you can see that with a little time and development it can happen, and I hope that the silly little mistakes that are getting maximum punishment right now get ironed out. And honestly, watch his overall game – he has been decent!
Arsenal have picked up ten points from twelve, are looking solid whilst not being spectacular ( a lot of that solidity is down to Havertz being decent in the middle, believe it or not), and have multiple options. Arteta and Edu should have earned trust from the fans after the past few years.
John (still buzzing after Sunday) Foster, AFC, Brighton
…Can I, on behalf of my fellow Gooners, scream in Stewie’s face “It’s been 4 games!”. I don’t believe you even believe your own straw man argument. I’m gonna ignore the tortuous Brexit analogy and go straight for the jugular. The only person who seems to be writing off Havertz after a sample size of 4 games for Arsenal is…you.
Do you know who else had fallow periods, where they weren’t at their best and scoring or assisting in a game for a new club….EVERY SINGLE PLAYER IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPORT! I’m now going to go to the comments section of your mailbox to ensure everyone is giving you the shoeing you deserve.
John Matrix AFC
