Save us your Man Utd ‘final steps b***ocks’ and ‘spoilt entitlement’…

Date published: Thursday 5th November 2020 2:20

Old Trafford Man Utd

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MUFC entitled and woke

Rarely these days do I find cause to write in to any forum to express views (even this wonderful F365 site).

Largely, this is because most people, whilst probably falling short of being actual medical idiots, do a great job of sounding idiotic when they write in to such forums (yes, I do recognise the irony here ;)). Plus, I think we all know by now, that keyboard warriors differ significantly from those fans who actually attend football matches and have some idea how the game is played (as oppose to those who’s only experience is watching their sons play under 10s where they enjoy trying to sound knowledgeable by shouting random words from the side lines that have little meaning to anyone else anymore, such as “time” and “one of you”!)

But I find cause this morning to throw caution to the wind and write this in respect of “James MUFC”, who wrote an articulate piece which looked sensible and thoughtful for much of it. James mate, if you are MUFC, then we are in the same boat, and whilst maybe not on the same page, we are at least holding the same book!

I agree that, though Ole is the easiest target, the problems run deeper in the club. The Fish rots from the head as the Japanese say. However, my view is that the problems not only extend upwards in the club, but also wider into the fan base. Most of our fans are spoilt and entitled and are beset with the same disillusionment about ‘brand MUFC’ that they like to constantly complain about. To be clear, we have ZERO right to be anywhere in football terms other than where any other club is who plays football. We became the biggest club in the world by being the best at recruitment, academy development, leadership and tactical acumen (albeit I would suggest with a smidgen of luck when it came to THAT youth team arriving at the same time the great man did! – God is a red as it turns out!)

James, I have particular issue with your statement that last year we needed “2 or 3 word class players to make that final step”. Sorry, er….., what??? What “final step” is that??? Did I miss something last year? Did we actually reach the final of the CL and just lose out by an unfortunate penalty or dodgy VAR decision?? Did Klopp just sneak the premier league trophy from our stretched-out fingertips with a few lucky results, or pip us on goal difference by a last minute dodgy Salah dive for a pen?

Because I don’t think I did miss these things. We have been dogsh1te for too many years now, and any disillusions that we are getting closer each year or that Ole is actually doing ok and we need to keep him etc etc is as big a problem as anything that is happening in any boardroom!!

We need to strip back everything right now, including our fan base’s spoilt entitlement about where we “deserve” to be!

Let’s not talk about final steps or such b@llox until we have a few years of finishing in the CL places, or maybe winning a couple of minor cups eh? Please!! Cos we have no chance of getting anywhere if we burden the next poor bugger who follows Ole with the same ridiculous expectations!

Even if we get recruitment right for the next 2 years, we are still 5 strong seasons away from anything resembling a “final step”.

I’ve only just stopped crying about last night
Paul, Manchester

 

Surprised face…

How often are we really supposed to be surprised by what this United team do? Some teams that are not afraid to take the game to us (PSG, Leipzig) get sucker punched, teams that we pin back, sucker punch us. We are a counterattacking team. Solskjaer said he was setting us up that way, and that way we are.

Any team that presses us high and has a well thought out game plan (Arsenal, Southampton), beats us. Or makes us panic so thoroughly that we orchestrate our own demise somehow.

We have no tactics other than the empty rhetoric of “when you’re playing for Manchester United…”

To act as though Solskjaer “engineered” the wins against PSG or Leipzig is to overlook the fact that they both fell into the classic trap of allowing us to counterattack and/or let themselves get stretched, creating space FOR our player to operate in. Our players can’t create space for themselves by being patient and slowly drawing a team out, like your Citys or your Barcas, we just pass the ball back and forth between our defence until all 10 outfield players are in the opposition half, then get caught on the counter through indiscipline and bad coaching.

Any team, and this number is swiftly increasing, can beat us by being well-coached. We cannot break any team down because we are badly coached. Last night watching Demba Ba run 50 yards unopposed should be all the evidence you need that Solskjaer is simply not good enough on any level to coach a team with aspirations like ours.

Which is another thing, the narrative that we’re a big club must surely be wearing thin. First it was the “Top 4”, now it’s the “Top 6” cause two teams fell out of the former, how long before it’s the “Top 9”, with this catchment being renamed yet again to facilitate our decline?

United are on a course to be utterly ruined by the owners, who will simply suck the club dry until it is a profitless husk. Fans wonder why they’re not more proactive with hiring/firing/recruitment, etc. but a cursory glance at the share price over the last 10 years will show you that what happens on the pitch has almost no bearing on the value. Win the league, so what? Finish 7th, so what? Qualify/don’t qualify for the CL, so what? Why would they do anything like invest in infrastructure, DoFs, players, etc. when it has absolutely no bearing on how much money the club is making them?

The club has morphed into a branding and marketing exercise, a capitalist venture with a history that is now nothing more than an asset that is rapidly becoming a liability.

Pochettino taking over will give us a boost, sure, but in the long run, nothing will change until the club is reduced to a crumbling heap of bricks and mortar.
Synnott (someday I’ll write in with something positive to say)

 

The Diogo orange and Firmino apple

So apart from the man u circus, the whole Jota v Firmino argument is trending across the football mediums. Apples and Oranges.

Not sure if the opposition fans are genuinely concerned about Bobby or just scathing in jealousy as to how the recruitment team of the club has seemingly pulled off another scoop.

Anyhoo, I have been vocal since some time about how sh*te Firmino has been, (since restart) but the argument could have been that the whole team sleep-walked to the title. Now, since the new season, Mane and Salah have picked up the pace, delivering what is expected of them – goals.

Firmino was never expected to score goals prolifically, his key role is always enabling the wingers running at the opposition defense. His slack in form has continued into the new season; losing the ball carelessly, unable to complete simple passes and hardly starting off attacks for the team. Mind you, he is an excellent hybrid-forward. I repeat, goals weren’t the metric, that the manager or most of the fan base judged him on.

He’s been clocking insane amount of minutes for the team, my hopeful guess is that he’s just tired and needs some time off. Rarely do teams luck in, when a key player dips off, and a new signing hits the ground running.

Firmino needs rest and some help from the coaching staff and he should be back to his best. Diogo Jota seems to be an excellent forward, his dimensions to the game starkly differing from Firmino’s. One runs at defences and has lethal scoring instincts; the other is the enabler of the other forwards in a team that presses the opposition defense into traps.

Let’s not compare apples and oranges.
Mihir, Mumbai, LFC (This is like comparing a calculus-loving sibling to his writer brother)

 

When will they ever learn?

Hi,

I couldn’t help myself. Hope the formatting works…

Where has all the hubris gone?
United fanboys bragging
Where has all the hubris gone?
Not that long ago
Where has all the hubris gone?
The Arsenal beat them, no goals to one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have Ole’s fan boys gone?
Loud mouth bragging, klopp and Guardiola slagging
Where have Ole’s fan boys gone?
Bad winners always crow
Where have Ole’s fan boys gone?
Basaksehir beat them two goals to one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Cheers
Andrew (Melbourne)

 

Ole ditty

To the tune of ‘Feeling Hot Hot Hot’: Ole, Ole;  Ole, Ole – get him out! out! out!

It is a shame the fans are not in the stadiums to express their views.
Jonathan, London

 

Man Utd second kit

It’s not really my business to add my two penn’orth worth to the daily and often entertaining attacks on the festering corpse of what used to be Man Utd but I will anyway because I’m bored and depressed after six months of my “beloved” other half working from home. I’m not a religious man but there is possibly a yin and a yang, a concept that all actions have consequences, that immoral actions will eventually be punished. So all that being the case surely every filthy idiocy that befalls Utd must in part be a consequence of the fact they appear to wear a second strip so revolting and absurd that it can only be described as “some Australian’s nightmare”. Look stupid, act stupid.
Dean WWFC (Liverpool got a bargain.)

 

 

 

Coaching > buying

James in Galway, in talking about Man Utd’s transfer policy,  made the comment “Klopp is brilliant, but couldn;t coach Moreno to be Roberston”.We all know that Michael Edwards gets so many well deserved plaudits when it comes to Liverpool bringing in players, but it definitely goes deeper than that.  When, before Klopp’s Liverpool, have we so frequently heard ‘character’ as being a driving influence in a transfer?  Yet every Liverpool transfer now is so heavily based on being the right character.

So what does that mean?  A winning mentality?  A big personality?  The first thing it seems to me, as it seems with Jota, is someone willing to learn, to be malleable, to be coached by Klopp to play however Klopp wants him to play.
it seems Liverpool can buy a square peg to fit a round hole providing it’s going to be willing to let Klopp file it into shape.

That’s effectively the source of the claim that ‘Liverpool don’t buy superstars, we make them’ which does certainly have foundation.  It just so happens that with the level we’re at now, we can buy a higher calibre of diamond in the rough.
Paul, The Wirral

 

Heading and dementia

Dementia is a truly harrowing disease, it strips a human being of their personality, very slowly and their loved ones have to watch as the person they knew slowly disappears and it is true we need to do everything possible to reduce the chances of increasing a person’s risk of dementia, there is certainly a link between heading a football over a period of time and increasing your risk of developing the disease.

However I do not see any big football governing body changing the rules anytime soon, to remove heading from the game I feel would be something that they just will not do, I could be very wrong, I read a few articles before writing this mail just so i didn’t slip up and miss a key piece of information, citing from an article on the BBC in February of this year it does state that “a study by Glasgow University found former professional footballers are three-and-a-half times more likely to die of dementia than people of the same age range in the general population, However, there is no definitive evidence that heading a ball does cause dementia. That would require long-term research.”, so there is clearly a link, but without that longer term research I think that will be the key point going forward with FIFA, UEFA etc, they will state until there is concrete evidence that the link is 100% true, it will not be changed, but curiously i must open this up to the mailbox and the comment section and ask “Are you in favor of removing heading from the game? and if so how would you go about doing so and implementing that rule change?”
Mikey, CFC 

 

What a load of Koch

Have you watched Leeds play this season? Surely not if you include Koch in your best signings list. He has been garbage for Leeds with costly mistakes.

It would have probably been better not to include an entry for Leeds since none of our signings have been that great.
Dale (You better leave that title) Leeds

 

Staying on your feet

Hi

I’m not going to go into the possible dark intentions of those accusing a certain high profile player of cheating by not staying on his feet in one incident last weekend. But by contrast last night saw a high profile summer signing win a penalty where he could clearly have stayed on his feet, and i’d suggest it’s the third time this season he’s done it. He was also notoriously unpopular for this inclination in his native land before he came here. Just saying.
Cheers, Rob.

 

Barcelona’s defence

Hi,

Haven’t written in for a while. Looking at Barca’s defense I wonder what is the purpose of the defenders in front of Ter Stegen.

They have been shambolic for a while but no part of me can believes that Suarez deserved to go over Pique (apart from the few goals he scores he might as well be a mannequin in defense). I wonder how long Ter Stegen can keep being a one man defense.

Thanks,
Ash

 

There are no Arsenal, Chelsea or Manchester City representatives in our rundown of the top ten players of the season. Nor Manchester United, of course, but Jay Rodriguez gets in?!

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