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Heskey v Giroud
In response to William, Leicester. Giroud has practically the same number of PL goals and assists as Heskey, in roughly half as many games as Heskey. He’s also scored 38 international goals next to Heskey’s seven. Oh, and he’s won a World Cup.
Let’s be clear on this, they are not even on the same planet.
…Let me preface this by saying I have a lot of admiration for Emile Heskey, I genuinely thinks he gets a raw deal.
I also think William in Leicester needs to understand that there’s no comparison between him and Giroud.
As a “non scoring” striker Giroud has 201 club goals in 486 games and 32 international goals in 83 games or 233 career goals in 569 games
As a “non scoring” striker Heskey has 164 club goals in 786 games and 7 international goals in 62 games or 171 career goals in 848 games.
Surely you can see the difference? Even at his best when he was dynamite at Leicester, Heskey didn’t really get past a 1 in 4 record.
It’s not even close.
Doug, AFC, Belfast
Euro Super League
I absolutely love theoretical discussions about how football competitions could work, and the European Super League is a prime example. If there is room, this would be my take on it…
The current Champions League settlement sees the top four clubs from the four top-ranked leagues qualify automatically for the group stage. This is the marker of how the ESL will/ would work. It would be something like 32 clubs by invite only based on revenue generation. Clubs would then play either every team once, or be split by region into ‘conferences’ as in the NFL (you would then play your conference rivals home and away (to maintain traditional rivalries (el Classico etc) and other clubs just once). The conference system make sense because that gives you your playoffs.
However, the fundamental point is there would be no promotion and relegation. ESL clubs would be ESL clubs until they fall below a certain revenue generation point or a new market arrives. Licenses for the ESL would be on a franchise system. There would be something like 6 English Clubs, 6 Spanish, 5 Italian, 5 German, 2 French, 2 Portuguese, 2 Russian, 1 Dutch, 1 Turkish, 1 Ukrainian and 1 Belgian. They would leave their domestic leagues and hoover up the talent as ‘superclubs’. What remains would continue (I quite like the idea of the ESL clubs still playing in domestic cups, a bit like MLS clubs in the US Open Cup) and fans would still watch.
While the cash on offer would be hard to turn down I would wonder if clubs would actually want to go for it in the end. The fact is if you are big fish in a local pond you get to win lots of things. If you get 32 massive fish involved, some of them have to be mid-table. Some of them have to be near the bottom. Some of them will spend week in, week out getting hammered. The Americans counter this through the draft system but European football would be a lot less controllable. I could see fans drifting away pretty quickly.
Micki ‘it will definitely have playoffs’ Attridge
Broadcasters and Basingstoke
@ Khairur, Penang – I feel your pain. Unfortunately whilst the football echelons revel in the sheer gluttony of their quest to rip off every average football fan, nothing will change. An earlier mailer makes reference to the decreasing Champions League figures being purely down to the BT Sport charges on top of the Sky charges and he/she is bang on. I would love to watch the Liverpool vs. PSG match but I refuse to pay the BT Sport subscription. I could probably just about afford it (only just) but to me it is now a point of principle. I’m not referring to myself as some kind of mythical King Arthur type character who will mystically lead the followers into the light, but I do think there has to be a revolution here. As long as we continue to supplement the greed, the greed will continue. If football fans worldwide finally decry the abhorrent money making machine that is football and no longer ‘invest’ to watch it then the deep pockets of the football governing bodies WILL feel the impact.
My point is entirely arbitrary and I have no facts/figures to back it up. But your pain does highlight the global issue and I do believe it is the responsibility of the likes of F365 to begin to really push this issue home. Ancillary responsibilities are down to all of us football fans – it’s not good moaning about it but then coughing up. What’s that going to achieve?
Beautiful part of the world is Penang. At least you have that. Try Basingstoke.
If you’re an Ipswich Town fan, the chances are you’re in your 40s or 50’s.
It’s hard to believe that we were one of the top teams in England for over 10 years – finishing in the top 4 for 8 of those years, playing regularly in Europe, winning the UEFA Cup, playing with the first Dutchmen in the top flight, and with a 30 goal a season midfielder in John Wark.
On top of it all, we had Uncle Sir Bobby Robson in charge (seemingly constantly pursued by Barcelona), and the player he called the best centre-back he’d ever seen.
Kevin Beattie could do everything; big, strong, and skilful. He regularly cleared the ball over the main stand (much to our juvenile delight), he scored from the halfway line, and even broke Kenny Clements leg with a perfectly legitimate 10-yard sliding tackle (they were simpler times). He was the inaugural FA Young Player of the Year, and quickly got picked for England.
Unfortunately, the one thing he couldn’t avoid was injuries…catastrophic ones that ruined his career and caused him to retire aged 28 with only 9 caps to his name.
It seems only fitting that on the day he died, Ipswich stand rooted to the bottom of the Championship – a long, long way from Kevin’s glory days and our increasingly faded memories.
TWTD – Vale Kevin.
As we embark on the main rounds of European football it was interesting to see how Burnley fared during the qualification phase. I always want all the English teams to do well. But it does makes me wonder why some teams bother to try to qualify for European competitions if they aren’t prepared to truly go for it
I imagine it has been a wake up call for Dyche who can pull off the odd Allardici comment – comparing himself favourably to the ‘Top 6’ managers. Perhaps now realising it is not as easy to handle Europe and the league, regularly playing two games a week, not having a full week to prep for one game and fine tune tactics, setting up against teams that he doesn’t know as well and more.
One reason given for his teams poor performance in both Europe and the league has been the impact two games a week have on his team’s fitness. Then I watched Liverpool and City and look at their stats and see the tremendous work rare put in by those teams. Just look at Milner and Firmino. Run long distances, tackling, back tracking and more. These players will play more games, run more miles, more everything in a season than any of the Burnley team. In fact it is interesting to see how teams like City, Chelsea and Liverpool not only play better but constantly out pressed their opponents this weekend. It isn’t just a matter of superior skill but also fitness and effort.
When you finally have a chance to compete at the same level and fall short it might might be a time to rethink and overhaul your management style. Perhaps Dyche may temper some of his comments comparing himself to the rest. I know this won’t be a popular opinion of the ‘people’s manager’ but then that should be Howe anyway.
Fabinho’s exclusion explained
Just going to throw it out there for a laugh but is Fabinho not getting any game time simply because he’s too ugly!?
Hear me out here…
For the first time in quite some years our lads are all Gary Good Lookers. Not a Peter Beardsley amongst them. From Milner’s cheekbones to Firmino’s smile, we are pleasing on the eye in more ways than one! Seems a long time ago when Skrtel was frightening the children rather than opposition strikers.
Fabinho… Not so much.
Poor lad. Maybe Der KloppMeister simply doesn’t fancy him. And seeing as the German has had his hair and teeth done there could quite literally be the tiniest iota of truth in this frankly batshit mental rumination.
Gregory Whitehead, LFC
I have enjoyed Mesut Ozil’s agent defending him in public about the sometimes unfair criticism he has been subjected to, especially the Media, seemingly on the same page as Football365.
Today’s comments are different. His absolution of blame for Ozil meeting Erdogan is preposterous and weak. I would have expected F365 to feel similarly, rather than describing the agent as your favorite figure in football. Glossing over allowing Erdogan to leverage Ozils popularity as an exercise in soft power is not OK, in my view.
Oliver Dziggel, Geneva Switzerland
I’m not going to get too involved in the debate around Wilfried Zaha’s plea for protection, other than to say typically if you have a difficult experience you can react in one of two ways: you can either think “what I went through was awful, I don’t want others to suffer the same” or you can think “I had to suffer so everyone else should have to as well”. You can make your own minds up as to which of these you think the various TV pundits are adopting, and also as to which of these is the more constructive.
What I really wanted to write about was the inclusion of Max Meyer in the “pointless signings” thread. The way Meyer has been used has left Palace fans scratching their heads. Having joined the club late in preseason, it was understandable he didn’t start on opening day, and the situation of the Liverpool game meant he wasn’t likely to take part. He got a chance from the bench against Watford, with the Eagles 0-2 down, and within moments had set up a goal for Wilfried Zaha. He also impressed against Swansea City in the Carabao Cup.
It’s worth pointing out that Palace fans are far from ungrateful for Roy Hodgson for where the team are, compared to one year ago when he took over, but there is some understandable frustration. Roy Hodgson likes the central combination of James McArthur and Luka Milivojevic, despite their flaws being exposed in a couple of games this season, when they’ve been overrun while sitting deep. Swapping one of them for Meyer and looking to play more on the front foot seems like the obvious idea, but it does present its own problems: Milivojevic is the better of the two and the captain, and yet statistics show Palace are 0.5 points per game better off with McArthur than without him, something I’m sure Hodgson is aware of. There doesn’t seem to be an obvious way of incorporating Meyer without totally throwing off the balance of the team or playing someone out of position, so Hodgson’s got a task on his hand to keep all of this players – and his fans – happy. Next up for the Eagles they host a Newcastle United side in total disarray. Away win with clean sheet it is then.
Should anybody care to wonder why United are currently a mess, it might be worth considering that, since the Glazer takeover, the club has spent £768 million servicing the loan the Glazers leveraged against the club to buy it.
That’s an awful lot of players, upgrades to Old Trafford, investment in the academy, and funding for a women’s team.
I know I’m being pedantic but it’s Inter or if you want to be posh, Internazionale.
Calling them Inter Milan is like saying Chelsea London.
Ask any Inter fan what they think about having the word Milan in their name and you’ll get a nasty response.
Chris M (Sometime Milan fan)